How do you feel about the police?

Take a kook at this report, it will give you a much better picture.
Of the 23 deaths in 2017, only 11 had been restrained. Restraint includes handcuffing during transport in a police van to prevent drunks fighting again on their way to the station. This leaves 12 of the deaths involving no physical contact.

If a police are called to a drunk or drug addict already unconscious and take every care, get them an ambulance, and escort them to hospital, if that person dies within 6 weeks, they have technically died following police custody. Even if their death was due to septicemia caused by inhaled vomit prior to police arrival, or they died following a later drinking binge.

The same is true for mental illness, which was responsible for 12 of the deaths.
Add this to the 18 who were sufficiently stoned or drunk to need arresting and you will realize that the figure is higher than the number of deaths. Thus meaning that at least 3 of the people had an addiction that classified as mental illness.

London alone has 31,000 police officers and when you see the segments of society that make up most of their work, it is amazing that nationally only 23 or them subsequently died in 2017.
I would go as far as to say that a spell in police custody has extended the life of many addicts and mentally ill people, rather than killed them.

Police custody deaths in England and Wales highest for decade

 

Same here. And although ideally we wouldn't need a police force, we aren't living in Utopia. So as OP says they're a neccessary 'evil'.

2 unnuanced nutcases.

 

A necessary evil? Remember that next time you're in a situation and hope one is around.

 

We're nutcases for noticing that white people are being murdered in South Africa in high numbers but gets no publicity?

 

No. Because you connect a lot of other things to it. Like the general decline of the white race. I think you know exactly what I mean.

 

Dude, hop off my dick. You have been riding it since the other thread we were on and now it's just annoying.
I'll say and feel anyway I want to but you don't see me criticizing you or your beliefs and such even though I may disagree with it.

 

Dude, everybody has an opinion. . As I've discovered here, when you share a personal opinion, it'll probably be challenged by at least one other member.. .
Just happened to me on the "how many friends do you have?" thread. .go figure . .

 

A bit harsh

 

A sweeping generalization for sure..

 

Whilst you may have a valid point in 'other' Countries, (as I indicated in a previous post) have you noticed this is in a "U.K." Thread
It seems (for you are not alone in this) that before commenting on Worldwide generality, things; whilst having similarities are not always the norm for all.
This being said, perhaps one should be more specific in the title of the thread i.e. "How do you feel about the 'UK' police?"
I didn't think that would be necessary, however,.....
Your comment would I feel be better elaborated on in the Political section - along with not just identifying the issues but suggesting an appropriate response to such - be it by written or physical action
Opinions are always welcome- this is the whole point about a socially interactive communication forum - but Civility and respect should be employed (again not singling you out in particular) - IMO

 

I've never had a bad experience with a cop personally, I'm a small quiet white girl so why would I (if we're being honest)

But I've met enough cops on a personal level to know I dont like the personality type the job attracts at all. I met these NYPD cops a few years ago who were racist af, I wont even repeat the things they were saying. And my boyfriend's stepdad is a cop - between him and all his buddies, I don't like any of them. They're all very straight laced, authoritarian minded, they see the world in strict black and white terms, and many of them are on a power trip. And maybe it's just because his step dad has no sense of humor but none of his cop friends do either. I dont trust people who dont have a sense of humor

 

Yeah, I apologize.

 

It takes a cool dude to apologize in my book.. You rock, man. .

 

Thank you. c:

 

Since someone has already called this thread out for going off topic, this is a hypothetical question, no need for us to get into another debate lol
But just food for thought: you do realize South Africa was under apartheid into the 90s and all the ancestral land owned by native blacks was violently stolen by white settlers and then not given back at the end of apartheid?
Historical context always matters in understanding the present

 

Are you saying that innocent people should be murdered for things that they had nothing to do with?

 

I'm not stopping you from saying anything? You say crazy stuff in a public space, then whine about critical reactions. Disagreeing is not an issue.

 

And how many blacks have been killed by whites in South Africa?

I'm not debating you, yo. I'm just asking you to please for the love of not falling for every far right propaganda piece you see, study the history of south africa and understand that blacks were brutalized by european colonists, and had all their land and all their freedom and rights stripped away from them, in their own native land into the 1990s.

 

The dismantling of Apartheid Government in South Africa started in 1990 when De Klerk was in power there and Republican George HW Bush was president of the United States of America. OBAMA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Don't blow smoke up people's buttocks and keep that racist shit on some other website.

 

I didn't say anything crazy at all. The reactions weren't critical but laughable.