The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Flagme15

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    So you are three years old. bfd.

    something to blow up.
     
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  2. egger

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    Trump had limited options on the Congressional legislation regarding Hong Kong.

    He has shown little interest in human rights other than to damage it for his own political gain, such as separating migrant children and their parents near the Mexican border to try to obtain U.S. taxpayer money for his border wall, cutting off aid to Central America because of his frustrations with immigration, and cutting off aid to the Palestinians to try to coerce them to agree to a deal that favors Israel.

    His veto would have been overridden which would have made him look like a loser. If he hadn't signed it and let it become enacted without him, it would have given the appearance of Congress bypassing him. Signing it snubbed China in the midst of trade negotiations that affect his chance of winning the 2020 election.

    Trump tried to minimize the blow by saying he was being respectful to China ('respect' doesn't even seem to be in Trump's lexicon). Hu Xijin countered Trump's remark by sarcastically saying that out of respect for the U.S. China may prohibit entry into Hong Kong those who wrote the legislation.

    It's the usual political posturing on both sides.

    The U.S. had a $31 billion trade surplus with Hong Kong in 2018. It may have been another variable in Trump's equation.


    Hong Kong | United States Trade Representative
     
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  3. egger

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    Another example of the Trump administration making a claim that uses the word 'absolute'.



    Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must testify in impeachment inquiry, judge rules
    Trump administration had argued McGahn had ‘absolute immunity’ as a top presidential adviser
    Ed Pilkington in New York
    Mon 25 Nov 2019 20.53 EST
    Last modified on Tue 26 Nov 2019 12.42 EST

    Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must testify in impeachment inquiry, judge rules

    excerpt:

    "A federal judge has landed a damaging blow on Donald Trump in the US president’s ongoing fight with Congress, ruling that the former White House counsel Donald McGahn must testify in the impeachment hearings despite claims that he had “absolute immunity” as a top presidential adviser.

    The judgment from Ketanji Brown Jackson, of the US district court in Washington, has potentially far-reaching implications for Trump as he struggles to fend off impeachment. Not only is McGahn an important witness in his own right – as Trump’s first White House counsel he had broad influence until he left the post in October 2018 – but the ruling could also affect other key witnesses called before Congress.

    Those high-value witnesses include John Bolton, the former national security adviser who is reported to have been deeply unhappy about Trump’s posture on Ukraine, Bolton’s deputy, Charles Kupperman, and the current acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney. In each of those cases the White House has deployed the same argument – that the officials were so core to executive functions that they enjoyed immunity in the face of congressional subpoenas."
     
  4. egger

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    Poll: Majority of Republicans think Trump a better president than Lincoln
    by Tim Pearce
    November 29, 2019 08:02 PM

    Poll: Majority of Republicans think Trump a better president than Lincoln

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    "A majority of Republicans believe President Trump is a better leader than Abraham Lincoln, who guided the nation through the Civil War.

    The Economist and YouGov conducted a poll from Nov. 24-26 of 1,500 American adults. In the wide-ranging poll, researchers asked Americans to compare Trump to past U.S. presidents.

    Fifty-three percent of Republicans said that Trump is a better president than Lincoln. For Democrats and Independents, Lincoln is considered to have been the better president with 94% and 78%, respectively."
     
  5. egger

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    Trump is the type of person who could start a civil war.
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Spread the wealth and Lincoln could have avoided the civil war
     
  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Dishonest Abe could’ve avoided the civil war. He just didn’t want to
     
  8. Okiefreak

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    Good for him. The Union forever! And lay off that Johnny Reb propaganda. Di Lorenzo is a sloppy amateur historian and a closet Neo-Confederate..
     
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  9. Okiefreak

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    Yes, we all how big Republicans are on spreading the wealth. What does your statement even mean?
     
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  10. 6-eyed shaman

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    Now you’re talking! Murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people is always a better alternative to finding a peaceful resolution. Hitler would be proud
     
  11. Okiefreak

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    So you want to compromise with the secessionists and let them keep their slaves? Peace at any price? Neville Chamberlain would be proud. Puttting down rebellion isn't murder. Hang Jeff Davis from a sour apple tree! (Altho I must say if the Southerners wanted to secede today, I'd help them pack--after moving to Pennsylvania. Good riddance!)
     
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  12. lode

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    The only possible way to prevent war would have been to let the south secede, there would be no United States as we know it today.

    Lincoln didn't promise to end slavery until the emancipation proclamation, two years after the start of the civil war.

    Here's a letter Lincoln wrote in 1862.

    "If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."

    Abraham Lincoln's Letter to Horace Greeley
     
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  13. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Its what's called "Amazing Grace" with Lincoln deciding the south had pissed off the north enough that freeing the slaves would be possible, despite 80% of the country opposing the idea. He was right, because actually freeing the slaves arguably required another century and was inevitable.
     
  14. lode

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    All I know is that I thought that statistic sounded insane before I came here and heard it from the horses mouth.
     
  15. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The US is a country of immigrants and slaves who often competed for the lowest paying jobs, encouraging corruption and racism. A racist society that is not corrupt is a contradiction in terms, with the Japanese and US having practically legalized white collar crime. The Japanese have a practically zero crime rate, if you ignore their rampant white collar crime, and they can be as racist as anyone. Both have basically institutionalized corruption with the result that it corrupts their entire society, inspiring people to put dollar signs on each other. They are what hippies call a cannibalistic culture.
     
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  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I think he was talking about Jefferson Davis, "Gen." Lee, "Gen." Pemberton, "Gen." Hood, "Gen." Beauregard, etc. when he was talking about those who murdered innocent people.

    BTW if you ever want to move here to PA let me know.
     
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  17. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Yeah, but Trump don't give a shit about a million Muslims in Chinese Concentration Camps. He thinks the Muslims are only there to concentrate.
     
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  18. Flagme15

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    In retrospect, I think the us would be better off if they had.
    I mean the southern states, red states btw, are benefactors of the largess of the blue states.

    . . . . and then there is florida.
     
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    He Predicted Both Trump’s Election and Impeachment. What Else Does He Know?
    A conversation with Allan Lichtman, who's correctly predicted every election since 1984.
    Written by Benjamin Wofford
    Published on November 14, 2019

    He Predicted Both Trump's Election and Impeachment. What else does he know?

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    "It’s like a Greek tragedy.

    It has the elements of that. I think it’s more tragic than anything else. But mostly what people have come to me saying is, Wow, how did you ever predict this impeachment more than three years ago? I don’t have a formula for predicting impeachment. But I had studied his entire career, and his campaign, and I concluded this was someone who had no respect for the law, no respect for the truth, who had spent his entire life enriching himself, and promoting himself, often at the expense of others. This was someone who had never been held accountable for anything he had done, not for discriminating against minorities, not for hiring illegal immigrants, not for declaring multiple bankruptcies, not for lying about President Obama’s actual place of birth—nothing. And I saw the ways in which he had cozied up to the Russians in the 2016 campaign.

    And I concluded that all of these traits were exactly the kinds of characteristics that would lead a president to be impeached, that he wouldn’t change any of his ways once he became president."
     
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    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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