The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Trump has devalued the office of the President.
     
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  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It's also the source of Alex Jones and all the other Trump conspiracies. It's where they go since the media can not censor the "facts".

    So are you admitting most of the arguments that say Trump is innocent are incorrect? Or is that a platform like Youtube has the abilty for unpopular truths to come out. It's just up to the viewer to decide what is true.
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Are you defending youtube as a news source?
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    In some cases it could be. There are thousands of channels.

    Who does defend anything on Youtube as fact is Republican voters and Trump's cult. Anti-vax, pro-Trump, crisis actors for mass shootings, all of these are examples of their voting issues. And outside of Youtube there is very little research done that supports their claims. The research shows they are wrong.A guy who heard it from a friend make a video and than the video is a "fact". What I call fact also exists outside of youtube.

    That's my point, if you are pro-Trump and you are most of your arguments are from a source you are also saying is false.
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Dude, you are just saying a lot of vague nonsensical stuff
     
  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    According to Snopes the Saudis flew after the ban was lifted.
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    What does that mean?
     
  8. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    How so?

    It's simple. The entire world says one thing about Trump and so does Youtube. The 2 sources that say those sources are wrong is one channel in America that is not even allowed to be called "news" in Europe since it makes false claims and other Youtube channels.

    So if you are saying Youtube is fake your only source of news is an entertainment channel. All your time spent here is the same as arguing Game of Thrones or something like that.
     
  9. lode

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    Well someone obstructing congress by ignoring subpoenas does this.
     
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  10. lode

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    Congress allocated that money.
     
  11. egger

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    US aid to Ukraine: How it's changed under Trump, Obama and Bush
    By Megan Henney, FOX Business
    October 12, 2019

    US aid to Ukraine: How it's changed under Trump, Obama and Bush

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    "The Bush administration gave the least amount of aid to Ukraine, compared (so far) with the Trump administration and the Obama administration. During President George W. Bush’s eight years in office, from 2001 through 2008, the U.S. government provided about $1.1 billion to Ukraine, government figures reveal.

    Congress almost doubled the amount of aid provided to Ukraine during President Barack Obama’s eight years in the White House, supplying $2.1 billion.

    The amount began to spike in 2010 -- the same year that Ukraine held a presidential election. But the biggest jump came between 2015 and 2016. In 2015, the U.S. gave about $314 million to Ukraine; in 2016, that skyrocketed to $523 million, 63 percent of which went toward the military.

    The increase came almost two years after an incredibly tumultuous year for Ukraine, which was thrust into a violent revolution in February 2014 when pro-European, anti-Russian protesters marched in the nation’s capital, Kiev, ultimately overthrowing the Ukrainian government and pro-Kremlin leader.

    Less than one month later, the Russian military seized control of Crimea and, via a dubious referendum, annexed the peninsula.

    Lawmakers approved another significant chunk of aid in 2017 -- the first year of Trump's term, giving Ukraine $446 million. In 2018, that slipped to $350 million."
     
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  13. egger

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    Congress initiated the amount of nearly $400 million for Ukraine in 2019 and was upset when Trump didn't release it to Ukraine. The amount is comparable what the U.S. has been giving to Ukraine since the Obama administration.

    As he has done many other times in his life in a conniving, underhanded fashion, Trump took advantage of the situation for personal gain by withholding the funds to try to jerk Ukraine into investigating his political rival Biden under the guise of a supposed comprehensive anti-corruption campaign. Trump even wanted the president of Ukraine to make a public announcement of an investigation of Biden.

    When asked by a reporter who else related to Ukraine should be investigated for corruption besides Biden, Trump embarrassingly didn't have an answer. He said that his administration would have to look into it.

    Trump should have at least anticipated such a question from journalists but didn't. He's supposedly ten steps ahead of everyone.
     
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  14. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    That's not the way I remember it. I had family stuck in the UK and had to wait to fly to NY. My Congressman wasn't allowed to fly but the royal Saudi were able to do so.
     
  15. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    All Bills of revenue begin in the House of Representatives. Trump does not give. His job is to deliver what Congress gives. That's the way our country works.
     
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  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So basically when you disagree, its Trumps fault, when you agree its because of Congress i.e Democrats helped vote it in

    Do you think any of you lot are fooling anyone with this partisan crap?
     
  17. egger

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    False Idol — Why the Christian Right Worships Donald Trump
    By Alex Morris
    December 2, 2019 6:00AM ET

    False Idol -- Why the Christian Right Worships Donald Trump

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    "Trump seemed to ponder this deeply. For much of his political run, the thrice-married, swindling, profane, materialistic, self-styled playboy had appealed mainly to the more fringe elements of Christianity, a ragtag group of prosperity gospelers (like his “spiritual adviser” Paula White, a televangelist who promises her donors their own personal angel), Christian dominionists (who believe that America’s laws should be founded explicitly on biblical ones — including stoning homosexuals), and charismatic or Pentecostal outliers (like Frank Amedia, the Trump campaign’s “liaison for Christian policy,” who once claimed to have raised an ant from the dead). Considering their extreme views, these folks had an alarming number of followers, but certainly nothing of voting-bloc magnitude."


    "Over the next hour, the message was that theirs was a power Trump would heed — and heed more than any other president. He would end the contraception mandate of Obamacare (“We’re getting rid of Obamacare anyway”); he would select only anti-choice judges (“And this president could choose, I mean, it could be five”); he would do away with the Johnson Amendment, which prohibits tax-exempt entities from endorsing politicians (“Wouldn’t it be nice if you could actually go and say, ‘I want Donald Trump’?”); he would support prayer in school (“I saw the other day a coach was giving a prayer before a football game, and they want to fire the coach now!”); he would oppose any bill that pulled funding from Christian schools that were charged with discrimination (“I can only tell you that if I’m president, it will be vetoed, OK?”); he would keep transgender people from using the “wrong” bathrooms and locker rooms (“We’ll get it straightened out”); and he would protect Israel, following the biblical pronouncement that nations that do so would be blessed (“[Obama’s] been the worst thing that’s happened to Israel; I was with Bibi Netanyahu the other day, and he said he can’t even believe it”). In other words, when it came to religious liberty as the attendees defined it, he would make sure that America was on the right side of God."


    "Today, 82 percent of white evangelicals would cast their ballots for Trump. Two-thirds believe that he has not damaged the decency of the presidency, 55 percent agree with Sarah Huckabee Sanders that “God wanted him to be president,” and 99 percent oppose impeachment."
     
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  18. egger

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    Trump Cripples W.T.O. as Trade War Rages
    A U.S. offensive against the World Trade Organization will effectively shutter the group’s system for settling disputes, at a time it’s most needed.
    By Ana Swanson
    Dec. 8, 2019

    Trump Cripples W.T.O. as Trade War Rages

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    "This week, the Trump administration is expected to go one step further and effectively cripple the organization’s system for enforcing its rules — even as Mr. Trump’s widening trade war has thrown global commerce into disarray and another tariff increase on Chinese goods set for next weekend could send markets reeling.

    Over the past two years, Washington has blocked the W.T.O. from appointing new members to a crucial panel that hears appeals in trade disputes. Only three members are left on the seven-member body, the minimum needed to hear a case, and two members’ terms expire on Tuesday. With the administration blocking any new replacements, there will be no official resolution for many international trade disputes.

    The loss of the world’s primary trade referee could turn the typically deliberate process of resolving international disputes into a free-for-all, paving the way for an outbreak of tit-for-tat tariff wars."
     
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  19. egger

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    How Trump May Finally Kill the WTO
    By strangling the World Trade Organization’s appellate body, Washington is effectively hamstringing the trade organization’s ability to resolve disputes.
    By Keith Johnson
    December 9, 2019, 9:58 AM

    How Trump May Finally Kill the WTO

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    "Now, Trump has upended global trade with a series of unilateral trade wars that have all but rendered the WTO irrelevant, and he has embraced unilateral tariffs like few presidents before him. Since taking office, Trump has dusted off decades-old U.S. laws to justify slapping tariffs on NATO allies, European partners, Canada, Mexico, much of the rest of Latin America—and of course, repeatedly, China.

    Trump has threatened to withdraw from the WTO when he hasn’t been actively trying to neuter it. In the meantime, countries hit with unilateral U.S. tariffs have reacted predictably—with tariffs of their own and trade boycotts that have affected tens of billions of dollars in U.S. exports and upended global trade flows, leading the International Monetary Fund, the OECD, and the WTO itself to repeatedly downgrade global growth estimates due to rising trade tensions. Three years on, none of the problems that spurred U.S. actions—not global steel overcapacity, nor a ballooning U.S. trade deficit, nor weaker currencies in other countries, nor China’s state-directed state capitalism—has been changed one iota."
     
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  20. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    No one could be this stupid....lol...

    Toilets and showers: 1
    Trump: 0

     
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