Brexit

LOL

People should realise the Brexit Party is a right wing group that is led by neoliberals shouldn't they or are they completely blind?

It believes in cutting services, privatising the NHS and getting rid of workers’ rights I mean how dumb must these people think those who vote for the Brexit Party are?

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The right wing have been in power for the last 20 years since 2010 at least, so what the fuck are they going on about?

Again nobody here seems to be realistically disputing that all the problems with the defunding of the NHS, schools and public services are the fault of right wing policies.

So what gives?

This is like watching your dog doing a big dump on the living room carpet than then turning around and blaming the cat.

LOL what it sounds like is the Brexit Party actually wrote the ad to attack the Tories but then Farage got into bed with Boris so they just got the tipex out and wrote in Labour over the top.

How deaf and blind must someone be to fall for this crap.

 

Come on leavers give me something of substance the shit carousel with you pumping out the same old carp over and over is just boring.

Can you at least try to address even a few of the many outstanding criticisms of your views – like for instance blaming the problems with UK services that are due to UK government policies on the EU.

That has been the default of the right wing media and certain politicians of both the left and right for 30 odd years – it was the easy simple lie and the oldest political trick in the book that of scapegoating.

It was unfair and unjustified and incredibly persuasive and also it is the biggest reason for us been neck deep in this Brexit crap

 

How long before Scotland leaves?

 

Up to them!
The English are all for it - after all if not for the Scots help building the British Empire then democracy most likely would've never been a thing today.
Go on Scots love you lads and lasses. Get in there!
As a Welsh/Irish/Scot blooded Brit I hope the Scots stay British. To be honest though the UK flag is the best looking flag in the world, ever.
Sorry Yanks, at least our Australians have a more interesting flag than you deserters.
Go on Australians, we Brits recognise your derogatory slang Pommy for us Brits. Love you x

 

I'd defiantly vote Bhutan in a flag contest.

 

Our Welsh dragon licked that flee off of its scale during the 13th century.
Stay British, anything else is racist...

 

I said this in another thread, but I'll say it here as well:
The Labour party went from being the party of the working class, to being the party of the woking class

 

Come on leavers give me something of substance the shit carousel with you pumping out the same old carp over and over is just boring.

Can you at least try to address even a few of the many outstanding criticisms of your views – like for instance blaming the problems with UK services that are due to UK government policies on the EU.

 

Oh! Fuck in hell Bulby my friend.
You still harping on about that Brexit lark you lost up your arse?
God.
For fuck sake Man.
Give over!

I give up.
See ya Bulby.
Wouldn't wanna be ya!

 

That's a cracker 6.
A cracker!

 

No winners in this thread

 

Agreed!

What you just said reminded me of a lovely humorous song by Bobby Bare you might want to listen to.
There is a lot of truth in this.

If you do.
Here it is:



The hulk of a man with a beer in his hand, he looked like a drunk old fool
And I knew if I hit him right, why, I could knock him off of that stool
But everybody they said watch out, hey, that's the Tiger Man McCool
He's had the whole lotta fights and he's always come out winner
Yeah, he's a winner.

But I had myself about five too many and I walked up tall and proud
I faced his back and I faced the fact that he had never stooped or bowed
I said, Tiger Man you're a pussycat and a hush fell on the crowd
I said, let's you and me go outside and see who's the winner.

Well, he gripped the bar with one big hairy hand then he braced against the wall
He slowly looked up from his beer, my God that man was tall
He said, boy, I see you're a scrapper so just before you fall
I'm gonna tell you just a little 'bout what it means to be a winner.

He said now you see these bright white smilin' teeth. you know they ain't my own
Mine rolled away like Chicklets down the street in San Antone
But I left that person cursin', nursin' seven broken bones
And he only broke ah three of mine, that makes me the winner.

He said, now behind this grin I got a steel pin that holds my jaw in place
A trophy of my most successful motorcycle race
And each morning when I wake and touch this scar across my face
It reminds me of all I got by bein' a winner.

Now this broken back was the dyin' act of a handsome Harry Clay
That sticky Cincinnati night I stole his wife away
But that woman she gets uglier and she gets meaner every day
But I got her boy, that's what makes me a winner.

He said, you gotta speak loud when you challenge me son,
'Cause it's hard for me to hear
With this twisted neck and these migraine pains and this big ole cauliflower ear
And if it wasn't for this glass eye of mine, why, I'd shed a happy tear
To think of all that you gonna get by bein' a winner.

I got arthritic elbows boy, I got dislocated knees
From pickin' fights with thunderstorms and chargin' into trees
And my nose been broke so often I might lose if I sneeze
And son, you say you still wanna be a winner?

Now you remind me a lotta my younger days,
With your knuckles a clenchin' white
But boy I'm gonna sit right here and sip this beer all night
And if there's somethin' that you gotta gain to prove by winnin' some silly fight
Well okay, I quit, I lose, you're the winner.

So I stumbled from that barroom, not so tall and not so proud
And behind me I still hear the hoots of laughter of the crowd
But my eyes still see and my nose still works and my teeth're still in my mouth
And you know I guess that makes me the winner...

 

The thing is that Brexit has only just begun

A lot of bamboozled people voted to end Brexit without realise what they were doing was to continue Brexit.

The UK has only just passed the withdrawal agreement, which was meant to be the easy bit, we now have the hard part the renegotiation of the trade agreement with the EU27, traditionally trade negotiations are difficult and protracted affairs that can take years to put together and in this case they then have to be accepted by all of the EU27 who can demand changes or have it vetoed and remember we have pissed off a lot of those countries.

Oh and we have just ONE year to do it.

This is going to be a period of some certainties and many uncertainties, we will continue to trade with the EU under EU rules but without knowing what will come after because many think that this is a shame and that the people running this actually want the trade negotiations to fail, blame it on the EU and then crash out in 2021 with all the damage that will entail.

 

I mentioned the bamboozled who voted for Brexit and some might take offence at that, they might say that people knew exactly what they were voting for and I’d have to say the evidence indicated differently

You can look in many places but let us take this thread, if looked at it quickly becomes clear the ones supporting Brexit don’t have a clues what they are taking about as they find it impossible to put together any rational or coherent argument as to why they think Brexit will be good for the country.

For all their rants and bluster they have nothing

 

Bit like you really but you have to Labour that nothing until everyone gets pissed off with it !

 

Slight nuance: several arguments have been given, but the brexit voters on here don't want to expand on them further/in detail.

 

Mal

Sorry mate but what the fuck are you talking about, I mean come on you tried to lie to promote your viewpoint (and an obvious lie at that) so I don’t think you can lecture people on honest debate.

 

Asmo

LOL – Well I could argue the moon is made of cheese but does that mean that as long as I don’t expand on that or give evidence or details that must be accepted as a valid and rational argument?

[edit] Especially when others have explained in detail why the moon is very, very unlikely to be made up of cheese.

 

Not even trying to lecture you (that's what you do ) a few people on here and elsewhere knew I voted Remain but if you want to go on about it and make it the main basis for your argument then that says more about you than anything else you post !

 

Mal

You lied and are still lying to recap

You don’t seem to have ever posted a remain post

You have posted a shit load of anti-EU posts

You have told us your anti-EU views are based on things that happen some 8 years before the referendum

And you actually say you voted OUT several times, even on the day of the referendum

Here is another example from November 2018 you saying very clearly

Yes that was truth what isn’t true is you claiming you voted remain.

There is plenty of evidence of your deceit – where is your evidence that you didn't lie?