Another fun climate change thread

Hmmmm someone told you to 'go to hell' and it seems you're doing just that !!!

 

My sister is flying with her family to Sydney and she sent me this photo from the aeroplane.



I don't exactly know what Scott Morrison is supposed to do, but he's been bullied back to short changing his holiday which I kind of laughed at because I could imagine him being like ffs I can't do anything lol. He's obviously got his people to speak for him etc. if he's away so I'm not sure what him being in Australia is going to accomplish on that front and wasn't it last week or so people didn't want him around anyway. So you've got this guy who's being accused not caring about the bushfires and everyone seemed pretty loyal in cutting him down for that so the public opinion is saying he's useless and may as well not be there anyway, so then all a sudden he's not there but that's an outrage too. Heh, politics.

 

And then I've seen a few Tony Abbott photos in a fire suit but I ain't seen one photo of him actually doing anything so that leads me to believe it's just a political show much when Rudd went knee high in QLD water to "help" people in the safety zones mind you. And like yeah I get it, previous leaders are at least gearing up to try and help but it's still all for political reasons. If Morrison wasn't under the pump I doubt we'd see Abbott out there in a fire suit, or Rudd for that matter but the media love it and so do the population, but neither Rudd nor Abbott are actually going to risk their lives, few photos from the safety zone though. Abbott loads household object into a car, good photo opportunity to stir things up no doubt.

So on a political front you have all these old leader and a pack of never was and never will be's and all they can do is put Mr. Morrison down but none of them from what I've seen have come up with any viable solution whatsoever and the sad thing is these bushfires will be used as a pawn for political reasons and because no minister lives out in the bush that's going to be affected, part of me actually thinks these bushfires are actually a good thing for them because they create rifts in politics and someone will use them to their advantage.

 

I am in Thailand at the moment

 

Haha, he threw a scomo.

Left the country when things got too hard.

"things were a bit tits up this week at work so I Scomo'd outta there"

 

47.3 C in Penrith today, fuck that shit

 

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Lol @ the pitiful returns. Please dude, lose the attitude and namecalling. It takes away from the ability and will to talk with you.

 

Although I'm sure he ment in the way you took it, this sentence could just as well be uttered by climate change skeptics I mean don't most people on both 'sides' agree we need proper political leadership 'at the helm'. They just differ in opinion what that exactly means atm

 

true.

He didn't say it in so many words but what he meant was that the leaders ought to be getting involved. Right now all we have are bare minimums it would seem.

 

But what is that leadership, what are those solutions?

In the case of Jakarta, the only solution seems to be curbing the human population


Australia this last month, it's pretty evident now my country will be the first to pay the price for temperature increases

And I am surprised how much we don't give a shit, let alone anyone else

 

You're such a pessimist...

I think what he's suggesting is simply that our President, or next president as the case may be, should be involved in major ways but he's not being specific.

What I think?

I like the Green New Deal but for admittedly convoluted reasons... You see, I have no proof it'll work; at least not economically. It may reverse the course of climate change, or make major strides in the correct direction, but I don't know that jobs people lose will be re-imagined in a new green way. I don't know how that's supposed to work.

 

The cost of making a downpayment on an insurance policy against future climate catastrophe is trivial compared to the potential harm. Economic tools would be meaningless in such an environment. The absolute worst response is what we see the Trump people doing....moving in the wrong direction. Greta has every reason to be outraged along with her entire generation.

 

But there are some of us that do care, you on the other hand apparently do not, and neither do your politicians. If you did care you would be protesting to your politicians to do something positive instead of letting them swan off the Hawaii.

 

Greta Thunberg on Twitter

Gretas comments on the Australian fires

I am in total agreeance in part. Quite the head turner how much an event like this doesnt induce change

 

Ok, lets hear some answers though

Instead of "oh, our politicians should do more"

What should they do?

 

And free birth control worldwide.

 

None of which are real answers

5. Inventory the development of energy storage devices: give incentives for the development of batteries?????

"6. Modernize and connect the electric grid world wide.
7. Develop and improve mass transit.
8. Incentify the development of greater energy efficiency"

OK, but why hasn't all of that been done already?

3. Sell off public holdings of fossil fuel production - and how is that going to change demand?

1 and 2. 2019, CO2 emissions are higher than ever before and growing at a faster rate than ever before. Why aren't carbon tax and emissions trading working? What's the use if they are only set to act on 10% of the volume that actually needs to be reduced per year

 

N.H.-Bound Coal Train Kept Rolling, Despite Activists On The Tracks

 

It's what the government has done already.
Most of the stuff on climate change has to with what people and companies do every day.
Onus is on us to make the country and world a better place for everyone.

The smoke haze from those fires are caused by idiots who light fires on total fire ban days.
Not often do we get fires that start by lightning strikes.
This is not the fault of the aussie pm.

Think i saw a pic from our admin here zenkarma telling us he had to move away from his house due to a huge fire that caused the loss of a couple of furry friends of his.

droughts are caused by people not watering gardens and the grass every day.

then you look at how disgusting our waterways are.
Companies pouring their leftovers into the waterways doesn't help.

then you look at those hoons you see deliberately wrecking the atmosphere.
Air quality starts with that emissions level. If it gets over 200 it's bad air quality.