US Kills Iranian General

I'm not questioning the oil thing. I'm questioning your assertion ISIS is supported by US. That there is a motive is not enough to conclude it with certainty, which you seem to do.

You say that, but you don't know at all. It's more likely IS stole or conquered it, or bought it with their wealth they did had at that time (because you know they captured lots of land, oil and other stuff in Syria and Iraq), from another faction who did.

Yes, I think so too. I gave that example to illustrate that sometimes we cannot even rely on first person accounts.
You have not given a convincing reason yet for your conviction that the US supports IS.

 

Not because of the arguments you gave so far, because they don't make that certain.

Can't wait

 

many of those vehicles belonged to contractors, and oil companies they are stolen.. its not hard to get that many vehicles from contractors throughout the region. they evacuated, leaving behind 1000s of vehicles. Our main vehicle to get around wasnt a Hummer it was a Chevy Tahoe with modified body armor. Just like this Road rules for gunslingers: How military contractors use their vehicles to fight

 

Ok, I will add that I know people in Iraq and get Iraq news on the personal level. I read Iraqi news -in Arabic- daily. I know people who worked for both governments. And again, I am not going to spend days looking for some citation. This time you need to accept what I just said. I say America supports ISIS. America has been bombing Iraq since 1991.

 

Actually that's true. They did commandeer contractor pickups and former regime light armored stuff. But, they also got lots of support and cash. I know Marines were close to military intelligence people from the Defense Intelligence Agency, but did not have the same access to intel. I KNOW ISIS got American help. Maybe they turned against the Americans at some other point and maybe only some of them did so, but some still know where their bread gets the best butter.

 

If you think I would put that on here you are crazy.

 

I want to hear what made it certain to you. If you can't tell that no person in their right mind should accept it as a certainty. If you can tell without a citation, go for it. Solid explaining goes a long way.

I nor anybody else need to accept shit on this particular matter. I need at least a very convincing reason. And no, motive alone is not reason enough to accept your claim with certainty.
You base it on which american vehicles IS was using. There is a more likely explanation for that.
On what more do you base your certainty?

 

How so? And you realize your claims about your sources or what you know for certain doesn't mean shit to others if you don't want to expand on them? I mean I'm not asking for names lol

 

Press TV live TV. Iranian channel
in English , if it does not run on auto, go to setting and check 240p

 

Read what orison posted up.

 

OK, now you sound like you accept what the US government says about Middle East issue but not other sources. It's your right. I have the right to free speech under The United Nations Declaration Of Human Rights.

 

It sounds like you're making excuses to refrain from explaining something you can't. No matter how often you repeat you know, I know you are for some reason not telling why. At this point I unfortunately conclude you're bluffing. Or you have such sensitive secret intel you can't spill the beans lol

I don't accept anything on this matter that can't be verified.

A pointless comment. I'm not denying you or am infringing on that right. You actually refrain from telling something I am sincerely asking for. I'm not asking for anything weird or dubious.
I want to be as certain as you, but you for some reason are denying me that.

 

really should listen to the Iranian channel I posted .. its live from the horses mouth..

 

OK, again you do not have to accept what I say. You can think or believe what you wish. You can also google US SUPPORT FOR ISIS and you'll have several dozen articles come up on your screen. I CANNOT TELL YOU WHO AND WHAT MY SOURCES ARE AND FOR WHO THEY WORK. That would be very wrong.

 

But you gave an in depth argument why it was certain to you (it was unfortunately not a convincing one, as it is known how IS got a lot of that stuff). Can't you explain that way with other arguments?

And do you understand you saying you know for certain doesn't mean anything to others when you can't tell why/how? This is something you should accept.

 

I made a statement and you want college level citations as if I submitted a Master's Thesis. We are not going to prod this topic that way. Any further explanations by me will be made on a need to know basis and you have no demonstrable need to know. Please feel free to think what you wish on this topic. I am not going to name personal sources.

 

Cant say for certain but I think thats a Chevy Tahoe .. Made in America.

 

I explicitly stated I'm not asking for citations or personal sources. You are not reading well.
So you have no further arguments for your claimed certainty to share. The argument you gave was well written and in depth, I am just as disappointed as you it doesn't say shit about your claim. I think if you really had more arguments you would give them.

 

I'm tenacious about such a US support to IS claim like yours because it often pops up in these convos as a given. But it's really not. As becomes apparent when someone bothers to ask how/why its certain.

 

Why don't you read what orison has posted up?
It appears you don't give a rat's arse about his info.