The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    There is new evidence concerning Russian GRU hacking of Burisma servers in search of Biden related evidence to help Trump in 2020 elections. The report was on Rachel Maddow show last night and Adam Schiff now has it. You can bet he will do something about it. In the mean time Trump has retweeted a photo of Nancy Pelosi in Hijab. Lots of people on CNN and MSNBC are saying it is racist. Additionally, Trump's racist supporters seem comfortable with his behavior.
     
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  2. Tyrsonswood

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  3. Flagme15

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    Iran has offered $80 million if someone takes him out.
     
  4. scratcho

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    I'm sure there are some around that would do it for 8 bucks.
     
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  5. egger

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    House releases note on 'Biden case' from Giuliani associate
    Associated Press
    January 14, 2020, 6:37 PM EST

    House releases note on 'Biden case' from Giuliani associate

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    "In a letter outlining the evidence, Democrats said that Parnas' attorney confirmed that Parnas wrote the notes.

    The documents — including phone records, texts and flash drives turned over by Parnas — were sent to the House Judiciary Committee by three other House committees “to be included as part of the official record that will be transmitted to the Senate along with the Articles of Impeachment,” according to a statement. Some of the materials were made public while others were marked as sensitive.

    Four Democratic House committee chairmen in the statement said that they have continued “to collect additional evidence” so that the House impeachment managers “can present to the Senate the most complete factual record possible" before the impeachment trial.

    Parnas and his business partner, Igor Fruman, both U.S. citizens who emigrated from the former Soviet bloc, were indicted last year on charges of conspiracy, making false statements and falsification of records. Prosecutors allege they made outsize campaign donations to Republican causes after receiving millions of dollars originating from Russia.

    Several of the documents show Parnas communicating with Giuliani and another attorney, Victoria Toensing, about the removal of Marie Yovanovitch, who was at the time the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. Her removal, pushed by Trump, was at the center of the Democrats’ inquiry. Yovanovitch testified in the House impeachment hearings that she was the victim of a “smear campaign.”"
     
  6. Meliai

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  7. egger

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    Attorney General Barr should be investigating Parnas and Giuliani. Former Attorney General Sessions of the Trump administration (later disposed by Trump) launched yet another investigation of Hillary in 2017 that came up empty like the myriad of other investigations about her.

    Barr is protecting Trump and his personal attorney and underworld agent, Giuliani, who helped smear and dispose of a respectable and experienced ambassador to Ukraine, who is pursuing truther rhetoric about alleged long lost computer servers hidden from the FBI with Hillary's missing emails supposedly in Ukraine to dig up dirt on Trump's political rivals, and who coerced Ukraine to go along with it by withholding U.S. taxpayer money.

    Trump used his usual ploy about Parnas and Fruman that maybe there was a photo with he and them together but he didn't know the men.


    DOJ investigation into Clinton pushed by Trump comes up empty: report

    Arrested Giuliani associate attended Trump's invite-only 2016 election night party: report

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article236216698.html

    Lev Parnas Seen in Photo With Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner

    How 2 Soviet Émigrés Fueled the Trump Impeachment Flames

    Donald Trump denies knowing Giuliani associates Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman


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  8. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Anyone notice Trump didnt publically congradulate the President of Taiwan (trade talks with China soon), he got Pompeo to do it

    He's learning
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Since Trump has yet to produce evidence to back up his suspicions, it looks like he was trying to get Zalensky to dig up dirt on a political opponent. The disclosures from the newly released Lev Parnas documents confirm the conspiracy spearheaded by Giuliani to accomplish that nefarious objective with Trump's authorization. No matter how you try to spin it, I think that's what it will look like to members of "the American public" who aren't already part of Trump's cult.
     
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  11. egger

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    Loving Dictators Is as American as Apple Pie
    Trump has embraced yet another strongman, this time in Libya. But it’s not just a personal failing—it’s a national tradition.
    By Steven A. Cook
    April 26, 2019, 12:05 PM

    Loving Dictators Is as American as Apple Pie

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    "U.S. policy had previously been to support the Libyan government that Haftar has been seeking to depose. Indeed, just a week before the phone call—which took place on April 15 but was not revealed until April 19—Secretary of State Mike Pompeo again said that there was no military solution to Libya’s crisis. The entire episode reinforced the impression that Trump has broken the foreign-policy process and replaced it with presidential whim. And yet Trump’s support for Libya’s would-be strongman is perfectly consistent with the president’s own track record—and past U.S. practice."


    "It is true that America’s current relationships with authoritarians seems like a Trump innovation, but as Kirkpatrick advocated, and Presidents Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama demonstrated, supporting and working with authoritarians is not all that unusual. Before there was Duterte, there was Ferdinand Marcos; before there was Sisi, there was Hosni Mubarak; before Mohammed bin Salman there were his uncles; and before Haftar there was Muammar al-Qaddafi. One can debate whether these relationships were worth it in terms of achieving U.S. interests, but Washington’s ties with authoritarians were and are robust. Trump’s approach to strongmen just seems particularly perverse because this is an era in which democracy is in retreat, and the president of the United States is championing those most responsible for it."
     
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  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    No, mention Parnas, then they see photos like this

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    Some creepy little troll looking guy standing next to Ivanka

    Then they will just think that, just some little troll trying to sneak his way into the inner circle
     
  13. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Looks like he was succeeding.
    New Documents From Giuliani Associate Parnas Submitted for Impeachment Trial
    READ: House docs on Giuliani associate Lev Parnas's texts, notes
    Rudy Giuliani associate Parnas paid $1M by Ukraine oligarch's attorney
    Giuliani Ukraine pal has given ‘hard evidence,’ including videos, to Trump impeachment investigators, wants to testify
     
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  14. egger

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    Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. It’s not enough just to laugh at him
    He cages children, he holds a military parade, he muses about being president for life. Yet we fail to see him for what he is
    Jonathan Freedland
    Fri 5 Jul 2019 12.52 EDT
    Last modified on Fri 5 Jul 2019 23.40 EDT

    Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. It’s not enough just to laugh at him | Jonathan Freedland

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    "But all those giggles served to obscure the more pressing fact: that in a departure from all precedent, Trump had used Independence Day to stage a military display, in which M1A2 tanks and Bradley armoured vehicles rolled into Washington, while fighter jets and helicopters filled the sky. The generals, mindful of the need to separate military and political power, had long opposed this extravaganza and, tellingly, most of the joint chiefs contrived to stay away. They understood that such a pageant is the stuff of despots, not democrats.

    Another image framed this split-screen 4 July: that of the children, separated from their parents, who are caged in detention camps on America’s southern border. Accounts by lawyers and doctors who were allowed brief visits to these hellish places are almost unbearable to read: children deprived of sleep, denied access to blankets or mattresses, not allowed to wash their hands or brush their teeth; toddlers left alone on cold, hard floors, so traumatised they sit in stunned, tearless silence. I’m especially haunted by the report of “a suicidal four-year-old whose face was covered in bloody, self-inflicted scratches”.

    This too is what dictators do: demonising a group – in this case, migrants – as an alien threat, an army of invaders, so intensely and for so long that eventually any fate, no matter how brutal or inhumane, seems deserved, even when it is inflicted on that group’s youngest and most vulnerable members. Breaking up families, caging children in hot, fetid, disease-ridden camps – this is what dictators do.:"


    "His disregard for the rule of law is also that of the autocrat. His aides simply ignore subpoenas to appear before Congress, while in the name of his invented migrant “crisis” at the southern border, he became the first US president ever to declare a national emergency solely to circumvent the authority granted to Congress by the constitution. “That was a pretty straightforward authoritarian power-grab,” according to Kristy Parker, a former Department of Justice lawyer now with the Protect Democracy advocacy group."
     
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  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Trump's henchmen were tracking our Ukrainian ambassador Marie Yovanovitch's movements, phone, and computer use.
    Just like in Russia.
    Trump intimating Putin.

    This was reveled along with a letter from Rudy Giuliani asking for a private meeting with Volodymyr Zelenskiy with Donald Trump's "knowledge and consent," all turned over by Giuliani's buddy Lev Parnas.
    I wonder why Mitch doesn't want any witnesses called to get to the bottom of this?
    Remember Yovanovitch stated she feared for her safety and felt threatened by Trump:
    They needed to get her out of the way....sound like Russia?
    She was warned to get out of Dodge by morning becasue her safety was threatened...and not by foreign actors...but by her own government!
    The Putinization of the United States, track and threaten our own government officials with bodily harm.
    That's our president Trump/Putin.

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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    "The records turned over by Parnas' attorneys also appear to show that former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch was being closely monitored by a Republican congressional candidate, her physical movements tracked in real time along with her computer and phone use."


    That sounds a little far fetched. Who is this Republican Candidate with Jason Bourne training?
     
  18. egger

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    Trump is hapless at selecting underworld shadow agents to violate ethics and the law for him.

    His previous attorney and fix-it man, Cohen, is in prison.

    His personal attorney, Giuliani, dialed the wrong number and gave away his clandestine plan to an NBC reporter on voicemail, including words about needing hundreds of thousand of dollars more funneled in.

    Parnas, the emigree from the former Soviet block, Giuliani associate, and the person Trump now claims he doesn't know who was standing next to him and his relatives at his events, has been charged with conspiring to illegally funnel money from overseas into Republican election campaigns.
     
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  19. Tyrsonswood

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    Because he's wanting to make this "normal behavior"
     
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  20. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    couldn't take the chance to trust her. she was appointed by the Manchurian
     
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