The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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  2. Meliai

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    People like you are the reason Trump supporters are so often compared to a cult
     
  3. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    you are attacking me....just like rat's do...…..
     
  4. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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  5. Meliai

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    I'm not attacking you specifically, I'm attacking all Trumpies who lack the ability to think critically
     
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  6. egger

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    Lev Parnas and Rudy Giuliani have demolished Trump’s claims of innocence
    By Neal Katyal and Joshua A. Geltzer
    January 15, 2020

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...iani-have-demolished-trumps-claims-innocence/

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    "Americans who have been wondering why President Trump has taken the extraordinary step of trying to block every document from being released to Congress in his impeachment need wonder no longer. The new documents released Tuesday evening by the House Intelligence Committee were devastating to Trump’s continuing — if shifting — defense of his Ukraine extortion scandal, just days before his impeachment trial is likely to begin in the Senate. These new documents demolish at least three key defenses to which Trump and his allies have been clinging: that he was really fighting corruption when he pressured Ukraine on matters related to the Biden family; that Hunter Biden should be called as a witness at the Senate impeachment trial; and that there’s no need for a real, honest-to-goodness trial in the Senate.

    The most basic principles of constitutional law require relevant information, including documents and executive branch witnesses, to be turned over to Congress in impeachment. Particularly because sitting presidents cannot be indicted, impeachment is the only immediate remedy we the people have against a lawless president. And for that remedy to have any teeth, relevant information has to be provided. That’s why President James Polk said that, during impeachment, Congress could “penetrate into the most secret recesses of the Executive Departments … command the attendance of any and every agent of the Government, and compel them to produce all papers, public or private, official or unofficial.” No president, not even Nixon, thought he could just say “no” to impeachment. That’s why the House added Article II to Trump’s impeachment: “Obstruction of Congress.” It was a response to an unprecedented attempt by Trump to hide the truth."
     
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  7. onceburned

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    I would rather be in my cult than be in your cult
     
  8. Meliai

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    I'm not in a cult but I'm happy you're able to admit that you are!
     
  9. Okiefreak

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    I don't think they meant he was doing it directly himself. Obviously, if he did it, he was working through Ukrainians. Hyde told Parnas, he had unnamed sources who could “let [him] know when she is on the move” and indicated he knew when Yovanovitch’s phone and computer were turned off. (Maybe he had help from Dr. Jekyll.) I agree the whole Ukrainian escapade sounds like a bad Hollywood sequel to the Bourne series, with a comic twist. Rudy Giuliani's role would have been scrapped by serious screen writers as too over the top. Hyde is the "pro-God" ex-Marine congressional noted for his sexually explicit tweet about Kamala Harris and his recent selfie with Trump at Mara Lago--either part of the Inner Circle or faking it. Either way, sounds like an asshole--sure to go far in Trump's Republican Party.
     
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  10. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    So, you too

    You think that every one that votes for Trump is part of a cult?
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    This guy?

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    Seriously?
     
  12. Okiefreak

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    That's the one! The dark one disguised as a dog is really a Ukrainian operative, and the pumpkins are all bugged!
     
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  13. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Ok, but that's what your impeachment trial comes down to

    This hick looking mofo, that shifty as fuck looking Parnas guy and Guiliano who you know isn't dumb enough to leave any clues behind

    Oi vey
     
  14. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Well, it's interesting that you bring that up.
    Wouldn't it be nice to have a real trial in the Senate to find out?
     
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  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You really think Parnas would make a credible witness?
     
  16. Okiefreak

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    That's the trouble with criminal enterprises like Trump's. All the characters look shifty.
     
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  17. Meliai

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    No, I never said everyone. I know intelligent people who support Trump for various reasons, and I respect their reasons.
    But I have noticed those who have always taken a more critical and nuanced approach in their support of Trump are having difficulty defending him now. While his more cult like followers have basically buried their heads in the sand
     
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  18. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    That would remain to be seen.
    In court trials all sorts of people are called as witnesses, not just the most upstanding citizens with membership in the country club.

    The accuracy of witness testimony can be judged by motive, direct examination, cross examination, redirect and recross examination, corroborating evidence, demeanor, reliability, witnesses intelligence, and probably other things I can't think of at the moment.
     
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  19. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    We can explain that to you but what would the point be? You are Australian and perhaps serving Trump as you never take any other intellectual or political position, don't you not?
     
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  20. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I do! I do so! I think all of Trump's supporters are part of a cult. They are just like Jim Jones followers!
     
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