2020 Election

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    11 isn’t a very high score considering it’s only 11/20 positions where you agree with him on this quiz.
     
  2. Meliai

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  3. lode

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    I'm not perfectly a democrat. I don't care about assault weapon bans. America has a gun problem, but it's all handguns.

    And I believe in balancing the budget, especially when we're in periods of economic growth, so I don't fit in with any party there. Libertarians maybe, which I supported when I was 15.
     
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  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I really like the idea of a balanced budget. Clinton did one, didn't he? Incidentally, how do we pay our debt? It seems like we're falling behind. I guess just like a credit card that you're behind on.

    Well, I think we're at a boiling point of sorts and the people want things that cost more money than we have from GDP growth (or wherever the government gets it's money). I'm not going to pretend to understand the budget because I don't. I don't know where legit money comes from in our government undertakings; I only know that money is borrowed from China.

    I guess what I wanted to say was this: I think we need money right now and it would be a mistake to forgo some of these major changes in the name of conservative budgeting. I don't pretend to know when a more palatable time for catching up would be, but I think if we have the chance to implement changes to some of those major issues like climate change & abolishing ICE that you mentioned we should spend now and pay later. :)
     
  5. Flagme15

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    I get a little tired of you trying to interpret what I say. First of all, I didn't say that about Sanders. My point is this is one of his key talking points.
    Secondly, I voted for Gore, and also pain for what could have been.
    Look, I am a liberal, but am objective enough to call out bullshit on either side of the political spectrum. Are you?
     
  6. Meliai

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    You know I am, if I'm not mistaken my criticisms of Biden have been a source of irritation for you ;)

    But the fact is, they all take private jets to campaign. And Sanders is the only one (besides Steyer lol) who is really calling out climate change for the existential threat it is and pushing for policies that support making major structural changes to combat climate change.

    And one also must be critical of sources that try to sway opinions one way or another. You posted a hit piece put out by a right wing media outlet. Of course they want you to focus more on Sanders supposed hypocrisy rather than what he will actually do to help the environment and combat climate change. They want their readers to focus on that because they take a very climate change denying, anti environmental stance. Beware of media outlets who are pushing an agenda, homeslice
     
  7. everything bagel

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    Sanders is so not the only one pushing for environmental changes to address climate change. That's just not true... not sure who actually said it.
     
  8. Meliai

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    Oh I know.
    Apparantly anyone who pushes for environmental policy while chartering private jets on their campaign is a hypocrite, which
    makes them all hypocrites.
    But who cares when Trump is rolling back environmental protection after environmental protection.
     
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  9. everything bagel

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    Not all of them. Yang flies coach :)
     
  10. Meliai

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    The article I linked yesterday shares how much Yang's campaign has spent on private jets ;)

    Not that it matters to me, I'm more concerned with their environmental policies. And in order to be in a position of power to enact those policies they have to first defeat Trump which requires running an efficient campaign
     
  11. everything bagel

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    Oh... I didn't bother clicking on the article because I was sure that 1, the mainstream media simply wouldn't address his existence, and 2, we had all been led to believe he didn't do that. This is... big. It's like finding out santa claus isn't real :(
     
  12. Flagme15

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    and likewise my criticisms of Sanders has annoyed you. That has nothing to do with being objective. Don't be like a trump supporter, and automatically believe what your political leader says. That's not being objective.
    So from time to time, Fox News comes out with polls saying trump will lose the election. Is that poll not valid because it comes from Fox?
     
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  13. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I like him and I want that $1000 per month cash for me!
     
  14. Meliai

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    You didnt post a poll, you posted an opinion piece that basically posed the argument that Sander's fight for environmental justice should be disregarded because he uses private jets in his campaign.
    I'm not going to go around and around about this, like I said they all have used private jets so you're putting forth a purity test here that none of the Democrats can pass
     
  15. Flagme15

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    I give up.
     
  16. Meliai

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    ^I saw that. i don't like Gabbard but I'm glad
     
  18. soulcompromise

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    yea. seriously.
     
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    I'm surprised that she's so dumb (Mrs. Clinton) because why would you come at Bernie right now if you're a Democrat? Is she on Biden's payroll or something? *feels the weight of the status quo like a ball & chain*
     
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    I just want to know who pulled the stake out......was it you, me?
     
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