2020 Election

Where in my post did I say this didnt happen? Specifically. Also, where did say anything? Pretty sure all I did was ask a question. I'm starting to feel like you're incapable of addressing what people say and only able to address what you wish they'd said.

In another thread (or maybe this one wtf knows at this point) you called me a racist. When I challenged you to point out what it was i said that was racist, you stopped responding to me.

If lying about what minorities said and getting away with it isn't an example of white privilege then what is? Basically, you slandered me and got away with it. As white person, well, no shit. That's the way America works. As a moderator, its confusing. You should be banning people who said what you said to me.

But white privilege is a figment of my imagination

 

Pretty sure you said since the inception of the idea and not since the 1980s. But post 1980s...denial to let a mosque be built within so many yards of the world trade centers, border wall, stop and frisk, Joe Arpaio, Charlottesville, backlash against movies like Black Panther, Travon Martin, white police shooting black people like it's a hobby, opposition to BLM, the backlash against Shang Chi... you get the idea

 

And so you're saying all those things are strictly due to white people and that no white people in that time have suffered any similar type of opposition?

 

Has anyone ever had the cops called on them for cutting a neighbor's lawn because another neighbor thought they were stealing the lawn mower?
Because that happened to my neighbor, who is black.

 

No

 

But the 911 operator who was interrupted may have been white. Therefore not only does white privilege not exist, but white oppression does.

Or something

 

I'm sure there are plenty of black people who have not been banned from using a public restroom at 3 in the afternoon at a gas station for asking for the key by the door.

 

It's much more subtle than that. It's members of a whole race being watched or followed more closely in stores than others, being stopped and frisked by police, being unwanted as neighbors, etc. And yes, whites can be victims too. There may be parts of town where it's unsafe for a white person to venture. On the other hand, remember the black man who strayed into a white Italian neighborhood in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn,NY and was chased by a mob into the street where he was run over by a car? Yes, that happened some time ago--1980's, I think, but I know about it from a class in criminal justice, illustrating causation. Seems that community has problems. Racism in Bensonhurst We might also bring up South Boston.

 

Oh please find that.

Never mind, I found it. I didn't call you a racist. I called what you said racist.

 

Here is some news that has to do with the our current conversation, and the titled of the thread. It's about Bloomberg. He is running for the Democrat position in the primaries, and has been accused of a nonchalant posture on race. He supported stop & frisk, a controversial policy in New York dealing with law enforcement, and made some comments about redlining, a strategy that basically drew lines on maps around low-income/neighborhoods of color that were meant to exclude those people from loans or mortgages by banks and other lenders. His comments suggest that he is on the wrong side of the proverbial fence. What matters is that he's talking about it and seems to be doing what he can to get over the hurdles, but he's probably doing so too late.

To win black support, Bloomberg acknowledges white privilege

 

"This very OCD robber is outside who tried to steal a lawnmower but got distracted by the length of the grass!"

"Ma'am that doesn't sound very..."

"They're black!"

"Jesus! We're on our way!!"

 

My mistake. I'm not racist. I just say racist things. Again, what specifically did I say that was racist?

 

The entire Muslim population is barred from flying into the USA, even the ones who have similar names but not Muslim.

 

I understand the premise, but as you say in the last sentence, whites can be victims of it too, so the term white privilege seems a bit of a misnomer, as if a white person living in a trailer park and a white person living in Beverly Hills experience the same type of privilege or a minority can't have it as good or be even more privileged in a literal sense than white person living in the trailer park .

My example from yesterday highlights stereotyping, such as the close watching or following as you mention, as I'm almost certain if I was dressed in my Sunday finest I would have been given the bathroom key when and where I asked for it but since I was dirty he perceived me a certain type of way. Either that or he is flat out racist. But I think that's the crux of these things, usually a whole race is not being watched or followed, it's not like if Beyonce walks into a store she's going to arose suspicion (maybe something else) in the same way as a black male with his pants hanging off his butt and a bandana on.

 

In 2014 and 2015 I was denied use of public restrooms in Nebraska, Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah. The place in Utah allowed two hitch-hikers - who were traveling with me on the way to California in my truck - to use the facilities. The hitch-hikers were white. When I finished fueling my truck I parked it and went inside. The white business owner refused me based on my race/ethnicity.

 

When I was traveling with my white friend Curtis in 2012, he was allowed to use the toilet at a few of places but the attendant did allow me to do the same. It was a clear preference for the white by the other white.

 

Ok well I've seen "people of color" with the bathroom key at the place I was at before, so you know, maybe being racist is the MO for Gas Station owners.

...and you said did allow you to do the same

 

I was your assumption that a certain race of people needed to experience being a minority so they'd know how it felt. It has that feeling of moral superiority where none is deserved. Since it was specific about race, particularly wishing a genuine burden on them for even BEING that race, it certainly seemed like race was the primary angle.