Trump Acquittal Thoughts?

Please go back and read what you wrote in BRITISH GIRL IN TN on 2-14-2020 at 5:26pm thread post #31 and system post 8685485

You wrote : Knoxville was infested with Muslims and various Redneck Hicks. Now you can't honestly accuse me of Banal behavior when yours far exceeds mine and yours crosses the academic threshold for racism, don't you agree?

 

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now i understand. you think everyone who disagrees with your politics is the same person. that's why srgreene and varmint are the same person, and six eye is canadian.

 

Where to begin with you,sir?

The Social Security Trust Fund, as you seem to realize, has been a fiction almost from the getgo. Social Security has become a pay-as-you-go welfare scheme. My generation (I'm a late boomer) is essentially demanding that young people support us in our "golden years", which medical science is ever extending. I find that abhorrent- younger people, either as individuals or a group, were not asked if we wanted to participate. Neither was I. You have great faith in coercive government.

I think you realize that the Disability part of SS is separate from any sense of an earned benefit.

The word "entitlements" is widely used by policy makers and influencers of various ideological persuasions. I've personally heard it at state Libertarian conventions. It is a widely used term. Perhaps you should check in to that hearing- actually listening- problem of yours.

Little anecdotes worth sharing. I drive a nine year old Chevy Volt, purchased used from a friend. Husband drives a 17 year old Honda, which he bought new. Hub has a flip phone- I did not get a smart phone until a little over one year ago. I managed to survive with a flip-phone; when it died, I succumbed to the 21st century, and got a used iPhone 7. But I know many people with less money than we have who had rather high end phones for years, some of them being on a routine upgrade cycle. Some of those same people drive Mercedes and Lexuses. The moral is so many people decline to save, to invest in their own futures. I suspect the moral hazard that Social Security and other programs create is something you choose not to consider.

So no, those of us who have reservations about the existence of Social Security do not expect that our children are going to become "top executives"- I know mine won't. I do expect them to be financially prudent, to provide for their families and themselves. I am relieved to say that, for the most part, my four are (ok, one is a bit shaky, but she works for government and so the taxpayers are on the hook for her).

Investing is an uncertain- even speculative- proposition: should should not be "protected" from investment that turn out to be unsie. There are ways to limit risk, but risk cannot be avoided entirely, nor should they be. You assume greater risk in the hope of greater return- your choice, invest in small caps, even startups, or invest in investment grade bonds and T-Bills. You accept the consequences of your own decisions. Government regulations that attempt to "protect" investors- and I'm not talking about fraud here- often do more harm than good. As just one example, Sarbanes-Oxley has probably been a major factor in the decrease in the number of publicly traded companies in t he USA. As another, to a large extent, the financial crisis of a dozen years ago, was a monster created by government policies dictating how, and to whom, banks could lend money. I suspect John Bogle is responsible for more older people's prosperity than is FDR.

Your vitriol about Republicans is quite over the top, and rather mindless. Clearly you prefer the "opportunities" afforded public servants like the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens, and even Pelosis and Sanders, who "earned" considerable fortunes from their political connections. For all you can say about Trump- and there is quite a bit to say- he did not make his money out of his "government service". He made it- while losing quite a bit of money along the way btw- in the rough and tumble of the New York, and later world, real estate & entertainment markets. You seem to prefer the former- of the two groups, I certainly prefer the latter.

I believe Goldman Sachs execs have given much more money to Dems than they have Republicans. I know that is true of Hollywood execs. Your fulminations on the subject of campaign contributions amount to mindless fulminations.

Finally, you might know that Bernie Ebbers died recently, shortly after compassionate release from prison. So, I hope, will Bernie Madoff. Others who violated financial laws & regulations also faced prosecution, and some served/ are serving substantial time in prison. Undoubtedly, others got away. Best I can say is not all criminals get caught. Convincing juries about complex white-collar crimes has proven difficult. I would hate to be an accused executive with you serving on the jury.

 

It's easier … one basket of deplorables!

 

I think you are either mistaken, in a most egregious, willful manner, or you are outright lying about me.

I am not going to hunt down the thread, so give loyal followers a link.

Where did I say "Knoxville was infested with Muslims and various Redneck Hicks"?

 

If you think the Social Security Trust Fund is/was Fiction since the git-go … why do the Republicans keep raiding the fund? Roosevelt started it back in the 1930s to correct damage to America's economy cause by that stupid Republican Hoover.

 

Sorry, I answered/replied twice to that post … once to Varmint and once to you. It was an honest mistake on my part. You did not say "infested with Muslims" that was the other writer. I do remember you writing to me about the Muslim Mutah marriage. Maybe that's why I clicked on your post?

 

A while back 6 said he was from Calgary Alberta or someplace up there. That's what I remembered. I don't have the time to go and fish out that exact post. If you want to harp until the cows come home, have at it. In the current discussion, the original writer wrote "infested with Muslims and redneck hicks" and I see comments when directed toward the other side do not bother you, huh?

 

How so?

 

Well, I pay into SS like many other folks here and do not mind doing so.

 

Aren't disability payments based on the fact of a person's disability, not how much they put into the system? I could be wrong, but that's my impression. You do have to have contributed, but I didn't think the benefits received are proportional to contributions the same way other components of OASDI are. Now when you reach FRA, you go back to a.payout based on what you put into the system. If you know better, please correct me- but spare me the flames, if you please.

 

Well good for you. Does that justify compelling me to be part of that system?

The first presidential campaign that I became dimly aware of was in 1964, when Barry Goldwater proposed making being part of SS voluntary. My father was a strong Goldwater supporter. BaAuH2O was pilloried for that suggestion, and I don't think it has ever come up again in national political campaign.

 

not really, i had completely forgotten about it until you did something similar with someone else.

what? no, i'm rarely bothered by comments. i am much more bothered by the whole "us versus them" idea in general, unless of course "us" were the people and "them" were the government that is trying to divide us.

 

OK, I can respect that. You are correct about my attitude on the us versus them explanation … to a limited degree. It does not explain or define my entire personality. I have lived decades more than you on this planet. I am like Barak Obama, a son of a Muslim immigrant. Consequently, I spot people who post "Obummer" or characterize Muslims as some sort of infestation, as if their presence is undesired in America. But I do see the derogatory remarks when they do appear. My father was a business man, not a terrorist or some backward camel jockey. I do my best to keep an even keel on Hipforums; however, it is a tough slog sometimes, because there are trolls on here. Most of them are on HF to disrupt dialog which is positive to Democrat candidates, and to praise Trump under any circumstance. From what I have read of your comments, I thought you are a Democrat/Liberal like me. To me it would logically follow that we should not get into some side battle or pissing contest. The election in just a few months away, and I hope we would be on the same side and fight for them same cause.

 

Thanks for dragging my name through the mud. I actually don’t give a fuck if whites no longer become the majority in my country.

If you see whites losing the majority as a bad thing, you’re a bigot. And if you see whites losing the majority as a good thing, then guess what: you’re ALSO a bigot.

 

let me preface this reply by stating that i have been out drinking with my friends for the last several hours, so there is a distinct possibility that i won't answer this as eloquently as i would like.

i pretty much identify as apolitical. mostly because of what i've said before; national politics at this point is basically just a bunch of greedy assfucks being paid to divide us so we don't notice that the greedy assfucks are ripping us off in new various ways. on a personal level, i do tend to get along better with people who lean toward the left, just because their argument is generally about trying to help people, while their opponents often seem to just be operating on a fear of change even when change may be a good thing. that said, i do place a pretty high value on honesty and openness, so if i see either side making a bullshit argument, i'm likely to call them out on it.

 

OK, I can respect that. I wish that I was young enough to go drinking with friends! It's been nearly twenty years since I did enjoy that fun! On political theory, I lean way to the left, because I think the poor, the old, the disabled, and the blue collar workers are getting cheated by the rich and powerful. I lost count during my lifetime when it comes to the number of times employers and companies stole from me and I couldn't do anything about it, because the system favored the party which had "inc." at the end of its name.

 

I think it is good and was the right thing to acquit him. The left started these accusations without any evidence and did this in hopes of swaying the voting polls in the coming election and at the same time attempted to virtue signal and to hide their own dirty tactics. Their hands are extremely dirty.

furthermore people seem to think it was close to an impeachment, when in fact it was not. Doesn’t it have to be 2/3rd in order for him to be removed? Wasn’t close at all. They need 62 votes I believe? If it never happened for Clinton or Obama, clearly it wasn’t going to happen for Trump. Did anyone even think the impeachment would get him removed?

 

If there was no evidence of Trump's guilt, then why did the Republicans ban the use of witnesses at the impeachment hearings and some of the written evidence too ??? That barsteward was as guilty as hell, you know it (albeit won't admit it to yourself) and I know it !!!