Déjà vu

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  1. DrRainbow

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    Déjà vu is the feeling that one has lived through the present situation before. "Precognition" or "prophecy";Déjà vu - Wikipedia

    Jesus Christ, Joan of Arc and Nostradamus all told prophesies.
     
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    Other than missing the accent characters, I'm not sure why you're replying with the definition of deja vu but ok. Lol

    You asked me about deja vu.
     
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    Were prophesies of some historical figures brought on as Deja vu?
     
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    Don't know much about their prophecies, I can say that based on middle age Christian philosophy, the general mindset was that God imbued man with rationality. And while the study Candy Gal referenced earlier may suggest that the predictive quality of deja vu is illusory, the defining feeling of deja vu I think is that of certainty. So in minds cultivated to believe that some external entity granted them the ability to think, they might have taken such phenomenon as signs.
     
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    Have you ever heard of a theory where hallucinogens like lsd were commonly used in biblical times?
     
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    In relation to Christianity, I've heard that there is a talking burning bush described in the bible which some have suggested is a reference to cannabis or a DMT containing plant and I've heard an alternative theory which suggests Jesus was not an actual person but is rather a metaphor for Psilocybin Mushrooms. I just hear this stuff in passing, it's nothing I've thoroughly researched myself.


    There was definitely hallucinogenic use at the time though. Psilocybin Mushrooms and the DMT based Ayahuasca have been used since pre-history, there is also a mystery drink called soma which was used in Ancient India. One of my favorite psychedelic orators Terence Mckenna even speculated that Psilocybin Mushrooms aided in our evolution, that they were a catalyst to make us distinct from other apes which he called the "Stoned Ape Theory."



    "McKenna's hypothesis was that low doses of psilocybin improve visual acuity, particularly edge detection, meaning that the presence of psilocybin in the diet of early pack hunting primates caused the individuals who were consuming psilocybin mushrooms to be better hunters than those who were not, resulting in an increased food supply and in turn a higher rate of reproductive success.

    At these higher doses, McKenna also argued that psilocybin would be triggering activity in the "language-forming region of the brain", manifesting as music and visions,[3] thus catalyzing the emergence of language in early hominids by expanding "their arboreally evolved repertoire of troop signals."[7][26] He also pointed out that psilocybin would dissolve the ego and "religious concerns would be at the forefront of the tribe's consciousness, simply because of the power and strangeness of the experience itself."[43][79]"


    Terence McKenna - Wikipedia
     
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  7. I can't name all of the people who have told me this, and no, none of them can prove it.

    Time is the so-called fourth dimension. It's impossible to say where spirit entities would be. We don't even know where we are.

    I'm not sure that everything was created. It might just have always existed. If you think in terms of linear time, that's the only instance where things have a distinct beginning and end. But I believe our experience of time is an illusion. All of the "rules" are dependent upon this illusion of a past, present, and future.

    I prefer vanilla.

    Yes, it could.

    I have never studied the mechanisms behind defibrillation.
     
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    For you.​
     
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    A defibrillator is a machine that sends a high energy electric shock through the heart. This high energy electric shock is called defibrillation. The aim of this shock is to return a heart to its normal working state if it goes into cardiac arrest;Automated external defibrillator - Wikipedia
    You all know electrons flow through us. What amazes me is the weather systems on planets generate bolts of lightning. A bolt of lightning can stop our heart from beating. A defibrillator can start our heart beating. Is weather life? Life depended upon weather. Is weather the life of Earth?
     
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    Ok, here I come with Occam's razor.
    I think that we use past memories to familiarize us with certain experiences.
    What may feel like deja vu, could be a memory of a past event, similar to a present situation.
    My feeling of that place in London may easily be explained by something I had read and built an imaginary picture of such a place.
    Or simply a film I had watched.
    Although many theories have been developed, Freud had his own ideas on this, without hard evidence, it will always remain a theory for discussion.
     
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    Déjà vu seems to be a bit like Bob Dylan, passed experiences, psychic experiences, dreams, trick of the mind, karma, out-of-body experience and epiphenomenon. It is not time to apply the principles of Occam's razor?
     
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    Without logical scientific proof????

    Empirical research: Definition. Empirical research is defined as any research where conclusions of the study is strictly drawn from concretely empirical evidence, and therefore “verifiable” evidence. This empirical evidence can be gathered using quantitative market research and qualitative market research methods.
     
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    May we all find logical scientific proof of the purpose of déjà vu.
     
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    Go on then. lol
     
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    Yes. I'll go first. ;)

    I propose that we all experiment with the dream world.
     
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    I will be dreaming of you, let's meet in the clouds. lol
     
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    A déjà vu experience is a dissociative phenomenon, which can be characterized as a subjectively inappropriate impression of familiarity of the present with an undefined past. This paper reviews empirical studies on déjà vu experiences and summarizes the most salient findings. Overall, the findings appear to be inconsistent and inconclusive. The authors conclude that the available empirical research is of limited significance due to various methodological and conceptual issues. In order to evaluate the clinical psychiatric relevance of déjà vu experiences, further research which also addresses its qualitative features is warranted.
     
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    So we have NO proof.
     
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    We have no way of proving any theory on déjà vu.
     
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