the lockdown

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  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Same here. We could though, but we won't. Apparently its beneath all of us dutchies and there are better jobs. Then we nag on the east Europeans for coming here and create 'unfair' competition on the job market... Uhm.
     
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  2. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    is it even an option though? i grew up 10 minutes from a group of massive vegetable farms staffed by mexican migrant workers, yet at no point in my life did i ever see or hear that they were hiring. seems like they approach someone in mexico and tell them to send a bunch of people, without even considering hiring local. i suppose i could have gone there and asked, but i happened to get in good with the best paying hay farmer in the area so there was never a reason for me to look elsewhere.
     
  3. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    Well that's what annoys me.
    They said on the news a week ago that there was going to be this massive shortage of pickers...
    Then we hear no more about it.. and next thing, a few wealthy landowners (i am guessing) are chartering planes to fly in Romanians.
    The government should have helped organise it, and made it easy for UK workers to take the jobs.. like I say.. organise buses ..
    It should have been on the news every day. You know.. "Your country needs YOU!"

    But yeah. A few years ago I did apply for various picking jobs all around the UK, and didn't get responses from any of them.
     
  4. I'minmyunderwear

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    i have to wonder what they're actually paying. i always hear that americans (i assume you hear the same about british) won't work for that much. maybe it's true, i don't know because i don't know how much "that much" is.
     
  5. Driftrue

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    Yeah! Same!
     
  6. Asmodean

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    East europeans and Mexicans work generally for less. Besides, a lot of picking jobs are actually quite heavy on the body if you do it 6 hours a day minimum, 5 days a week. Or it needs skill (asparagus for example). So the locals who can get a better job will do so, and another amount of locals can't or doesn't want to do this work, or of course the employers don't want them because of their retarded work etiquette. If you get your workers from cheaper countries with a shortage of good jobs, you get both cheap(er) and very motivated workers.
     
  7. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    work *ethic ?
     
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  8. Asmodean

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    That's what i ment indeed :)
     
  9. I'minmyunderwear

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    what skill does asparagus need? my mom always grew asparagus and it seemed pretty straightforward to me.
     
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  10. Driftrue

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    you've been underestimating your mother all these years.
    she is actually a highly skilled asparagus charmer.
    asparaguses have to be charmed out of the ground at exactly the right time of day, with gentle whispering at the correct frequencies.
    You just didn't see that part.
     
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  11. Asmodean

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    Hard to explain. New people who have to do it all day fuck it up if not taught. It's not like harvesting carrots or picking strawberries
     
  12. I'minmyunderwear

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    all those times she sent me out to pick asparagus, i brought in my harvest, and she sent me to wash up so that while i was distracted she could throw away the crap i picked and replace it with her proper pickings from earlier in the day.
     
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  13. Asmodean

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    The way of the asparagus grower :D
     
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    I have a friend that had a fairly large farm out from our hometown in California. It was a family farm.Back in a little town in Mexico in the 50s, a couple of workers came up from that town somewhere in Mexico and started working for him. He and his farm treated them differently than most farms there do. They were provided housing ,insurance and a decent wage. When the workers got word to their small hometown, more workers from the town came up and were treated very well. Over the years, the workers were almost exclusively from that little town in in Mexico. Worked out well for the workers and the farm as well. Years later, my friend decided to visit the little town in Mexico and he said all the people in the town knew of him and the farm and his arrival was treated like the second coming !! He helped many, many people from that town over the years and was rewarded with loyalty and hard work from the Mexicans.

    Not many white folks will do the labor involved in farm work. It can be tedious , hot and low paying work in the main. That's the way it is. When my friend was ousted from the farm by his family over choice of lifestyle, he was left with a few hundred acres that he rents to another farmer by the year. His family ousted the workers from the small homes that were provided to them--the faithful workers from that little town in Mexico. They then had to live in the nearest town, costing them rent which they had not had to pay, then had travel time added to their expenses and suffered the cancellation of their insurance policies.
    I don't know what has become of the workers from that little town in Mexico that were able to grab a little piece of the American dream year after year by providing a decent life for themselves and their families in Mexico. I guess that most of them that enjoyed the largesse of my friend are old or dead by now and that the working life on that farm has returned to the way it has always been on most farms in the area. Or any farming area that employs hard working Mexicans. So it goes.
     
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    I just can't wait the lockdown to be over here in Australia . The media said it might be over in 4 weeks here i n Australia but they have to review it first
     
  16. No chance mate! Governments are using the review in 3 weeks/4 weeks or whatever to give you a glimmer of hope then draw the rug out from under your feet! It would have been more transparent to say at the outset that they could only lift the lockdown when a list of conditions were met but....no! Far to truthful!
     
  17. Asmodean

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    That's what they do here in the Netherlands. But of course it's uncertain at this point when those conditions are met. So they're still coming across to some like this:

    The people are eagerly waiting for updates on it and so the officials do so.
     
  18. Anyone with any sense just needs to look at the death figures to know that the lockdown is not going to be lifted!
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The swedish are sitting down in their cafes, reading their newspapers, wondering how the rest of you can be so duped
     
  20. Pete's Draggin'

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    Dang G
    It stopped before the best part.
    Now I'll have to watch the movie......
     
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