2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

Rohingya crisis: Hundreds of refugees stranded in boats at sea
A boat carrying hundreds of Rohingya refugees was turned away from Malaysia, with the government citing fears over coronavirus.

It comes as the United Nations issued a plea for the international community to take urgent action, after dozens died on the perilous journey.

It is believed that hundreds more people are still stuck at sea

Refugees 'forced to drink sea water to stay alive'

 

If second wave is worse, you intervened too early

Herd immunity was always the only solution

Vaccine will still be fairly useless for those over 65, still comes down to how well your immune system is working

All we have done is screw our economies so we are less able to handle a second wave that may be ten times worse

 

" Chiles government has said it will go ahead with a controversial plan to issue certificates to people who have recovered from Covid-19.

The documents would be given to people to allow them to return to work, Deputy Health Minister Paula Daza said."


Chile to introduce controversial 'virus-free' ID

 

Countries still without travel restrictions as of 24th April

 

Oops my high ass just post that shit in the wrong ass fucking thread..

 

Dominican Republic 26th April

 

Nigeria

 

Food Banking in the USA hey

 

I think stay at home orders need to be voluntary.

 

I know no one wants this but I'm just interested. IF the virus just ran rampant and killed everyone who couldn't survive it, or who needed hospitalization to survive it.. How many people would that be? Is there even a way to estimate?

 

We will probably find out during the second and third wave...

 

That's only possible if enough people agree with it. And if too many don't it defeats the purpose.

 

It's uncertain. But its not only about deaths. Many people who can survive after lets say 4 weeks on a breathing machine have a slow recovery process. Also, if we would let it run rampant many people who could survive with good treatment won't. Many would die unneccesary. There would be absolute chaos in the hospitals and it would likely extent to other aspects of society.

 

I know. I said, if it killed everyone who didn't need treatment.
Just wondering what we're looking at.
Like, if it is even possible for it to put the species at risk.

Not saying I want to do this. Just wondering.

 

Yes, but it is a factor that seems not considered by people like the OP, or most other folks when weighing future economic (and other societal) disstress vs. safety measures.

 

I don't see them not considering it.
I see them thinking the alternative is worse.

You seem to think if people don't agree with you, it's because they haven't read things carefully enough or are ignoring factors. Sometimes people have read exactly what you have, and still see differently. And you might be wrong. It looks to me like you never consider that possibility.

 

Highly possible, depending on how it mutates... Most viruses mutate into a less deadly form, this one could do the opposite.

One thing that worries me is how it's caused blood clotting in otherwise healthy 30-40 year old people. They have had strokes from it. (besides all the rest of those that died, which is worrisome also) This virus is not just a "lung thing" for old people...

 

I've never claimed it was. But I also don't find young deaths much more upsetting than old deaths.

I am sorry, in a way, that I can't just make myself feel what everyone else is feeling. I end up kind of like.. Well clearly there is something wrong with me. But I don't feel it. I could pretend I do but I don't.

In normal times, the degree I would like to see world poverty ended, climate health improving, is much higher(or less realistic) than most peoples. Like, I suggest things we could do.. Radical, society-altering things.. And I'm told it's not realistic, too idealistic. Then suddenly, for this, it's doable. And anyone who thinks it's a wrong move doesn't care about all the people suffering.

I live my whole life wondering why people don't care about all the people (and animals) suffering. So maybe that has forced me to be extremely pragmatic or else I'd be constantly in empathic pain.

 

Not really. I'm saying this about people who made it clear They only see old people dying anyway. Those who insist its a boomer vs the young thing.

You made some quaint observations in this thread anyway. For example, the OP states his opinions with absolute certainty yet im the arrogant one in making that clear. The OP projects stuff on people who counter him, but I'm the one who supposedly sees their convo partner in a particular way because they disagree with me.