“Hospital staff are overworked” they say

Yes. The problem comes when one closes off to the district possibility that one's beliefs may not reflect reality. It's easy to get duped. One should be cynical and open to new beliefs simultaneously.

Hahaha! No corona, sol, Tecate? One of them makes a dark - not too bad, I thought.

 

I still identify myself as me or I. Done so all my life.
Damn, I strive to refer to myself in the third person. I hope I find success in this.

 

Haha yupp: me, myself, and I. He and She. They is plural.
Sorry, I'm not adapting to stupidity. I don't care what new cool fools do. Whatever trips the trigger. Just don't try to tell me I have to join the club. It's like those goofy uncomfortable long shorts. The reason I wear shorts is because they're short. Might well wear pants if the shorts are covering the entire thigh. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :-o

 

It's oddly the cheapest beer I can drink that doesn't fook with my stomach. American and Mexican beer have formaldehyde and coal tar in their formulas.

Who knew cheap Irish beer would be so good for me?!?!?!?

 

The hospital staffs are overworked but not underpaid, with all the overtime they're putting in they can make a small fortune.

assuming they survive the pandemic.

 

Assuming they’re on the clock overtime making TikToks

 

Lmao @survive the pandemic..

 

This is actually not new. They've been doing it for years.

 

I thought I was badly paid, but here in the UK an ordinary nurse gets just over £11 an hour, not a lot when you consider the risks and responsibilities.

 

I used to pay my cleaner more than that !!!

 

well this is what happens with socialist medicine. Tax dollars pay for it. There is only so much to go around. Let’s all be poor together. You have a problem with how little nurses are paid? You get your clothes cleaned for you? Dry cleaned no less? Seems you have too much money to spend and aught to give to the National health Or something that is for the people.

 

No, I don't have too much money actually, and as for dry cleaning well, I don't own anything that needs dry cleaning! What really upsets me is how much money is made available to the extremely wealthy yet there appears to be none for the average person. how is it right that someone like Branson can expect the government to bail him out to the tune of millions when he doesn't even pay tax in the UK. My wife works in the NHS so I know about it from the inside as to how bad it can get.

 

well first off, Branson isn’t getting free money, he is asking for a loan which the airline would also have to pay back. Branson also employs 170 000 people. He also still has to pay taxes. When the airline isn’t making money, the government isn’t collecting taxes from his employees and from him as well, since it’s not working at all. He also put up 250 million dollar care package for his employees which came from Richard and Virgin group, His worth is calculated by news sources which include the value of his planes and business. So they take into account business assets, not money in the bank. Do you think he can sell those planes off in this economy? Or how about he sell off the company and says fuck you to all those employed?

 

As you say his assets are worth nothing in this climate, so how much he says they are worth is irrelavent! I have many thousands of pounds worth of equipment for my job, but if I was to attempt to secure a loan on it today they'd probably value it at a few hundred because there's no work about. Branson et al, need to put up their own money before getting out the begging bowl, I'm sick to death of hearing about companies laying staff off etc, claiming they have no money yet the directors/ shareholders still get massive bonuses, I can't work out whether these people are just plain greedy or they don't understand how things like this work, Yes as a shareholder you can make good money, but you can also lose money, it's like gambling. If I have a good run on the horses and win several thousand pounds and then one day I lose on a gamble I have to accept it, that's how it works, unfortunately these people think they should win every time.

 

ok, this is my view on it. Every employee and company they work for had to give money to the government for unemployment. They worked and paid into it so that there was financial security. What has the government done with that money? Laying people off does not mean fired either. It means we are making nothing right now... there is no work to be had. He put up 250 million for the employees laid off. Did he have to? Do you have people who work for you? Are they still working for you?

also I have stocks in some things. It is a gamble. I am watching them drop but I am not worried either. I am just holding them, I never put more in them than i could afford to lose, but I bought cheap... and it went up. I am still way way ahead. I know things will turn around, eventually. Groceries here have become more expensive.

 

That's nasty, I hadn't heard about those ingredients. I've always liked Guinness but it's kinda watered down compared to craft stouts and what we've homemade. I haven't consumed beer from the big companies for decades now, ever since they came out with "lite" beer. As a kid I liked Michelob - it was real beer in the 70s. It was usually between that and Heineken. We didn't see stouts and IPAs in those days. I don't drink much beer compared to beer drinkers but when I do it's from a specialty company. 8-10% alcohol usually.

 

Although I go to the VA hospital for my medical needs, the hospital closest to where I live the nurses average $99,000 dollars a year.

 

I worked for a large company however when the covid crisis came about my employer wanted me to go and live in London for 3 months, in the area most badly hit and in a motel that didn't serve any food, take aways were closing so it would have meant living on things such as cold snacks and pot noodles for the duration, I refused to go, the job wasn't an important one, plus the government were advising against travel. I got sacked, I then went to sign on, and was refused any help, so why do I bother paying tax and national insurance, if, when I come out of work I'm given nothing, in the UK it seems to be government policy to only help those who don't need help, i.e the very rich, or those who will not help themselves, i.e those who make a career out of claiming benefits.

 

In my opinion it is more about helping those who never paid into the system. They need help the most? That is how it is working out here. Surely you can collect unemployment there? Is there no relief fund to sign up for?

 

It's similar to teacher pay debates. No level is good enough - for long. Whining about low pay while making better than average. They keep upping it and pricing people out of services.
And a lot of teachers think they're on the socialist bound train... if that's realized, they're going to be crying a lot!