corona virus, what is the truth?

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, you still sticking to that are you? ;)
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The evidence is literally right in front of your face
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So tell me what it is.
     
  4. soulcompromise

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    What is this? ^^^^^

    Just more lies from pesky scientists? I think we've firmly established that without social distancing the levels of coronavirus would be exponentially greater. This is one image from one site. Business Insider as it were. There must be dozens more stating similar findings.


    Business as usual is not an option...
     
  5. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    well, what percentage of the population has died from it? If 100 000 more people died from it, the percentage would still remain the same, no?

    now in Canada they aren’t really testing people. Confirmed cases just means these people were tested.

    so they say Canada is not so bad. Is this true? 38 million people in Canada


    China
    Confirmed - 82,885
    Recovered - 77,957
    Deaths - 4,633
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    Canada
    Confirmed - 64,922
    Recovered - 29,247
    Deaths - 4,408

    now China has a much larger population. Our deaths and their deaths are close to equivalent. Yet they have way more people, so percentage wise we suffer a greater loss. Also 30 thousand are still sick. Furthermore, these numbers are not accurate, they are a lie. Cases are much greater here and med staff here are not tested.

    but if a million die will that percentage be much different world wide?
     
  6. soulcompromise

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    I think the message is along party lines. It's clear as day to me that the people who are saying that this thing isn't a big deal are the same people that say Trump is an excellent leader, despite obvious evidence to the contrary. The very same who tell us that there is no such thing as racism or that our version of American values and overtures to multiculturalism are misguided.

    This is partisan. This is political. To not call it out as such is to overlook the very very obvious truth.

    My attempts to keep it regulated and scientific seem to be deflected somehow or ignored.
     
  7. soulcompromise

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    If there are 38 million people in Canada, the number of people would need to increase by 100,000 at the same time, wouldn't it?
     
  8. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    well if they were all in Canada. That is the approx population of Canada. The percentage of deaths here thus far is .018 percent approx.. China has 1.39 billion. Their percentage of deaths is far less. But the numbers are a lie too.

    The USA percentage of deaths is .02 percent approximately. The6have 78000 deaths? Again, chinas numbers are a lie, so are Canada’s, USA is testing people and giving statistics.
    It would take a lot of people to increase the percentage. Now if those that die, were likely to die anyways, it’s killing the terminally ill, People who have a bad immune stem or heat( problems. and elderly with health issues in the first place. They won’t be dying later.. so the death rate is going to hit a low when this is over as well.

    Not that I want people to sicker or die early because of this, I would rather my dad stick around as long as possible. , same for others loved ones, but will this change an inevitable death?

    .04% of the US would be 131600 deaths I think? It really is a small fraction.

    but more than anything it is about keeping the hospitals free from a constant flow, or overflow... it is about the curve, controlling people getting sick, or when the6 do
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Area under the curve represents total number of deaths. Green area is the same as the yellow area, just takes four times longer
     
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    another thing, your curve graph, that is not how it works. They are controlling that curve, or waves. It isn’t one small wave with this, it is many small waves, preventing an influx exceeding hospital capacity,
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    These were the scenarios thrown up by the University of Minnesota last week

    No 2. Should have been named "ha, you are so screwed in the fall"

    University of Minnesota though, so just some grad student finger painting for the most part

    Note the timeline goes until spring 2022


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  12. soulcompromise

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    I think the main idea, though, is correct. They are probably smoothing out the dips and peaks for the purpose of conveying the primary gradual direction. :)
     
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  13. soulcompromise

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    do you think we have seen the worst of it?

    Stupid question, I suppose. It would depend on when and to what extent the population was exposed to coronavirus.


    For me, not that much has changed. Sure, I don't go to the gym now. School is from home. Everything else is much the same. One thing is a little different. I don't get to take myself out to restaurants; which is actually better in my opinion simply because 1) going to a restaurant without a date is probably anti-social to some extent, and 2) because I probably eat less when I don't get to go to restaurants; though I order plenty of take out, lol.

    Thank you for your perspective and vigilance in the fight against corona, VG! It means something, even if we don't agree. :)
     
  14. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Somebody removed my post calling out one participant for the shameful act of making this a partisan issue and spurring division.

    I'm out.

    That post is still there, too. :-(
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Every location on the planet so far, even New York

    There is no outbreak in the world that doesn't involve prolonged exposure
     
  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I think we can now throw out any reference to "expert opinion" . The "experts" have done a pretty pathetic job over the last couple of months.
     
  17. I'minmyunderwear

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    i don't know, at least you're talking to the waitstaff that way. seems way more social than sitting at home eating easy mac in front of the computer.
     
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    This is a cheap shot at my fellow gophers. The University of Minnesota is a world class university with academic and research achievements across a variety of fields. I would certainly put more stock in their work than the wood tick excrement originating at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in DC.
     
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  19. I'minmyunderwear

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    what a shining endorsement. "we're just the university of minnesota, but hey, at least we're not trump!"
     
  20. MeAgain

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    Where did you get that information? If someone infected sneezes on you you don't need prolonged contact. Same with picking it up from an infected surface.
     

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