Minneapolis Police Choke Handcuffed Man to Death

Interesting we should be talking about race relations in America on the 99th anniversary of the Tulsa Race Massacre of May 31, 1921 in which roving bands of whites destroyed the entire black section of the greenwood district in Tulsa. They attacked from the ground using explosives, and from the air using incendiary devices dropped from airplanes.

The official death toll 26 blacks dead, 10 whites, a modern reinvestigation has the number at 200 blacks dead, 50 whites.

 

Don't think for a moment this is the only time in American history this happened to an all-black community, because this stain on America happened again
two years later in Rosewood, Florida

The Rosewood massacre was made into a major Hollywood movie...…….

 

I agree. But then there is this strange, recurring phenomenon starting--when?The pre-1960s lynchings? The Tulsa race riots? Probably before, but recent memories go back to Rodney King beating in 101, and the subsequent acquittal of the swaggering sergeant Stacy Koon and the other three cops, subsequently convicted of civil rights violations. More recently, there was Trevon Martin, the rash of killings of unarmed blacks by police officers since 2015 al
Here's A Timeline Of Unarmed Black People Killed By Police Over Past Year Police killings of black men in the U.S., and what happened to officers And it goes on. There are riots partly because the system doesn't seem to be responding. What motivates a cop to kneel on another man's neck and continue to do so until he expires? What motivates a system to hesitate to charge the cop with a crime? Until those questions are satisfactorily answered, these incidents will go on and on. I don't think most whites are racists, but some are. It's important to recognize that and do something about it where policing is concerned.

 

Did you ever hear of Tony Timpa? He too struggled to breathe while being arrested by brute cops. Of course we never heard of this and no riots followed, because he was white. 'You're gonna kill me!': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa's life

Who is stacking pallets full of bricks out on these streets by city hall? Sindorei

Why is Antifa paying urban youth to riot?
Ian Miles Cheong on Twitter

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Let’s face it. The reason they’re enabling and encouraging riots, is so they could vilify Donald Trump for deploying the National Guard and portray him as a tyrant. It doesn’t matter to them how many business owners get murdered or how many predominantly black neighborhoods burn in the process.

Democrats like to pride themselves on being the party of the poor. Well in order to keep that title, they must keep a sizable portion of the population that way.

 

President Donald Trump tweets Antifa will be labeled a terrorist organization but experts believe that's unconstitutional - CNNPolitics

 

Weak talking points... Yeah, that's not proof, it's opinion.

 

Flint, Michigan, protest: Police put down weapons for parade - CNN
Big positive move in the right direction. This sheriff, who is willing to stand up the the scrutiny of his peers, is the type of leadership and fearlessness that is needed in this situation.

 

And yet, in all of those events only a fraction of the population was involved. MOST of the Americans aren't doing anything to anybody. So this blanket assumption that there's a silent race war that ALL white people support in some way is without merit.

So, how many unarmed white guys did the cops kill in all that time, since the pre-60s lynchings. By the way, lots of white folks were also lynched over the years, Lynch himself was white. Most of the public is reacting to biased media that has a vested interest in maintaining click bait. And what would be better than stoking a fake race war to get all those lucrative little clicks.

It's disgusting.

Not just the assholes driving the narrative, but the people lapping up every word as if it was mother's milk JUST because it "supports" their paradigm. Honestly, how would any of them be able to determine if they were being lied to just to drive profits? Consider if all of this was the same caliber of lying that was used to get us into Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Because it is, only it's more powerful now because media is celebrating a golden age of capabilities. Including the capability to drive angry mobs into destructive rage.

None of this shit is "organic".

 

Racism is ingrained into every aspect of the United States Criminal Justice System

Lets just take one small example for instance out of hundreds.

A small study revealed there are 50 black men currently on death row who were convicted by an all-white jury, despite the fact their convictions were in counties with a black majority.

How is that even possible?

The prosecutors in each case used every peremptory challenge they had to exclude African-Americans from the jury, even if it was black man or women was by his/her profile, or by their very nature a friend to the prosecution.

If you're black you can't look too closely at these things, or you might just join the protesters, the violent ones.

 

Anyone with half a brain knows they’re a terrorist organization

 

I didn't think so. I'm thinking about it now. What are their methods that make them a consideration for that list?

 

I think that this is probably hyperbolical.

 

Of course it is. But I don't hear many people assuming it.

Yes, Lynch was white. Not even American, as I recall. Irish--the son of the Mayor of Galway, who hanged him out the window. But of course that's irrelevant to the issue of lynching in the U.S. Yes, many white folks were also lynched--trying to fight racism. You seem to be trying hard to deny the history of lynching as an instrument of white racial domination. Let me refresh your memory.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-the-u-s-than-previously-thought-study-finds/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...ple-have-been-lynched-us-trump-isnt-one-them/
Lynching in America | American Experience | PBS
How white Americans used lynchings to terrorize and control black people
Never Forget: America’s Forgotten Mass Lynching: When 237 Black Sharecroppers Were Murdered In Arkansas
5 horrific modern-day lynchings of Blacks in America

 

Sounds like you are taking this personal as a white guy. No one not even most of those protestors said all white people are bad. They are protesting the racial polices of police which tend to also be Republican Trump views. That party has a lot of white voters who could learn from the protest but unless they change as people they will not.

 

This is a blanket assumption. Just because the percentages aren't to your liking doesn't mean we have a straight line to racism. To accomplish the "ingrained" aspects you're going to have to be more specific. Because most of the laws are generic and don't mention race at all.

So what's the real issue here? Which laws are racist? And how does that affect all of the criminal justice employees who are not white? This means cops, judges, parole officers, prison wardens.

 

This is you trying to be cute. And it is, it's just fucking darling.

 

I would not call it cute.
The protests have racial roots you seem to offended that I as a white guy see that. I must hate my own people and see white people as bad. I'm with that other race of people rioting. It's not like that. Why are you so quick to divide people by race?

 

There are no words in me to adequately express how I feel about the justice system. Perhaps the justice system itself wouldn't be so bad if the prejudiced, and evil were not at the top of the totem pole. I do agree with what you so well stated, "racism is ingrained into every aspect of the United States Criminal Justice System."

I live in the south where, indeed, the "white man" IS out to get anybody who doesn't agree with him/her. My 2 oldest nieces are in wonderful, loving relationships with black men. One had a baby Feb 13th and the other is pregnant with her due date being Sept 19. I'm saying all of this because I am unable to sit by and say nothing. To say nothing is the same as agreeing with what has been going on for over a century.

You are so right about looking too closely at these things...I'm not black but I relate so deeply to the protesters it makes my heart race. My girls are sharing stuff on fb and calling for white women that feel as they do to share too. So, damn if I'm not sharing.

I just had to say that it is also people that have black people in their families that are overwrought about this.

 

Of course it is.

I don't know, do you? The important question is how many in proportion to their percentage in the total national population. There are statistics on how many white and black people were killed by cops, but not how many were unarmed. People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista But I just gave you the names of several unarmed black men who wee killed by cops. Do you think the cops were equal opportunity murderers?

That Lynch, I believe, wasn't even American, but Irish--hanged by his own father, the Mayor of Galway. But that of course is irrelevant to the history of American lynchings. And yes, many whites were also lynched--for fighting racism! Again, you seem to be trying to cover up reality.
How white Americans used lynchings to terrorize and control black people
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/12/28/why-it-took-century-pass-an-anti-lynching-law/
Lynching in America | American Experience | PBS
This Map Shows Over a Century of Documented Lynchings in the United States | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine
Problem with this line of argument is that it seems to deny that lynching was mainly a tool to keep blacks in their place. The more you do this, the less credible your position becomes.

You seem to be suggesting that it's all made up by, or driven by, the media. While I think the media can aggravate the problem, that's far too simplistic an explanation for what's been going on in our cities lately.