2020 Election

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  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    That one is just like Trump. He wants to hide the truth from his own people.
     
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  2. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Reported New Cases in the US

    April 20th: 28,180
    May 5th: 24,836
    May 21st: 28,804
    May 26th: 19,373

    31st May: 20,724
    1st June: 22411
    2nd June: 22,258
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    5th June: 25,393
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    7th June: 18,905
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    United States Coronavirus: 2,039,369 Cases and 113,945 Deaths - Worldometer
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I smell a heightened level of desperation in your tone

    Honduran Caravans - everybody so quickly forgot about that. Southern border wall is now just another one of the public infrastructure projects you will need to get some of the 50 million unemployed back to work

    Mueller - no one cares

    Ukraine and Impeachment - well, no one really cared about Ukraine in the first place

    Bat virus - once it hit Iran and Italy, world was never going to get rid of it

    Free trainers from Foot Locker for George Floyd - well, speaks for itself

    Two terms, deal with it
     
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  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Biden's 14 point lead nationwide in the polls is no joke. even if you argue it was a CNN poll so it's naturally biased.

    And the latest FOX News poll in Wisconsin is damning, if trump loses in Wisconsin he doesn't stand a chance.

    btw are you delusional? 84% of Americans support the protesters,




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  5. wrat

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    Now it really means little much time until election... As I stated before I cant wait for the debates THEN we shall see whats going on
     
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  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    But COVID won’t spread at BLM rallies though :rolleyes:
     
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  8. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Then why is Trump and his white house staff in panic mode over the numbers if they don't matter?
     
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  9. wrat

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    Cause Trumps a Moron
     
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  10. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Because we're on the side of the righteous.

    COVID-19 will tear through the Trump rallies like a hot knife through butter. ...lol...
     
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  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Lol ok Karen
     
  12. Tishomingo

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    Let's see the "dems" are somehow in trouble because a man discovered to be an Antifa activist was once active an a group opposing payday loans and was photogrphed with chairs of committees overseeing financial regulatory policies he was advocating. Shades of Joe McCarthy. So--Republican!
     
  13. wrat

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    Guilt by association used BY many against Trump just tit for tat
     
  14. Tishomingo

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    Gee. With all the guilt of his own, who needs association?
     
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  15. Tishomingo

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    With all the guilt of his own, who needs association?
     
  16. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Policing should be about serving the public good but many neoliberal policies were about defund social services with the result that problems arising from that defunding were offloaded onto the police. The defunding idea as far as I can tell is to reverse that – fund social services so the police can tackle the things they should be tackling.

    Social services to be effective has to be based on the ideas of ‘the most amount of good to the most amount of people’ - NOT on Social Darwinist and a philosophy of ‘life isn’t fair’ so what is the point in trying to help.

    The thing is that the police are not trained for such social services and has traditionally been attractive to those with right leaning views.

    In 2016 a survey of police officers indicated that 84% said they would vote for Donald Trump (Hillary was supported by 8%, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson received 5%, and "other" received 3%).

    So let us imagine if you had police officers with similar views to say Wrats -who recently shared his views on slavery - then that ideal of public service goes out the window it would be purely about self-interest coupled with a disregard for the wellbeing of others. Social Darwinist views are very common amongst right wingers, neoliberalism is built on its foundation.

    In a philosophy of ‘life isn’t fair’ it would come down to ‘might is right’, of those with power and those that are powerless, I’s not about the public good, it’s not about been fair or just, or of working to make a better society.

    And voters of a similar right wing political and philosophical viewpoint are likely to be accepting of such a system and that has basically been what has been happening in many parts of the US

    I mean the abuses went on in plain sight, the militarisation of the police went on in plain sight, everyone knew about the ‘bad apples’ but those voters with a philosophy based on Social Darwinism and self-interest didn’t care because these things didn’t really affect them and when you view is ‘life isn’t fair’ then you don’t really care if it happens to other people.

    Let’s just hope things and will change
     
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  19. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    So adding on from what i posted above right wing viewpoints based in Social Darwinist thinking are likely to bread contempt for the disadvantaged (and racism) rather than empathy or sympathy for the hardships and plight of others but which are likely to bring about feeling of superiority and entitlement.

    (You can see that entitlement and superiority on display within the Trump administration)

    Now people could argue in the old chicken or egg way over whether right wing views brought about the racism or racism causes people to support right wing ideas. But it has to be understood when rebuilding the police in the US that the two often go together.
     
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  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yeah, i'm not a fan of most baked goods either
     
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