The Donald Trump Score Card

Today's Supreme Court decision on LGBTQ rights in employment, Bostock v Clayton County, GA., is monumental in several respects, not the least of which is the fact that it was written by Trump's first appointee to the court, Neil Gorsuch, and supported by five other Justices, including conservative Bush appointee, Chief Justice Roberts. Evangelicals who thought voting for Trump would bring victory for social conservatism must be having second thoughts. And Justice Scalia, whom Gorsuch replaced, must be spinning in his grave at an opinion which is an example of loose constructionism. (It takes a certain imagination to construe a statute prohibiting job discrimination on the basis of sex to apply to sexual orientation). But I'm happy with the result.

 

lol. Speaking of useless, your rambling rant is a worthless pile of crap. You pull figures on the numbers of rioters and looters out of the air and say "that estimate sounds about right", even though the rioting seems to have died down considerably since the first few nights, and your estimate sounds inflated at least tenfold. Most of the rioting and looting was confined to seven cities, and although the boundaries between rioters and protestors are fuzzy, 200 each is more likely than 2000. A few bad apples can do a lot of damage to the barrel. If we were talking about the Corona virus, you'd dismiss these figures as negligible.

Everyday people seem to be able to make that distinction. Public opinion seems to be on the side of the protests.
Public Opinion Is On The Side Of The Protests. That's New. | HuffPost
Times are changing
America’s Reckoning on Racism Spreads Beyond Policing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ublic-opinion-about-race-policing-heres-data/
Most observers don't think the cold blooded murder of a black man by the police, in the context of a pattern of similar killings over the years, is "something that's negligible in the first place."

So far, the suburanites seem to be sympathetic to the protests, much to the consternation of Republican politicians, who are scrambling to adjust the party line. A Reuters-Ipsos poll earlier this month found that 70 percent of those in suburban areas sympathized with the demonstrators.
Poll: Majority 'sympathetic' to protesters, disapprove of Trump's response
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...s-disapprove-of-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos
Reuters poll: Most Americans sympathize with protests, disapprove of Trump's response
Your posts are becoming more and more vacuous, much like the tweets of your orange hero.

 

64% of the American public wants police reform.

 

While the curve is flattening in the U.S. as a whole, the number of new daily cases in the U.S. is going up in 17 states, including mine.
Fears of second U.S. coronavirus wave rise on worrisome spike in cases, hospitalizations
Confirmed US COVID-19 cases surpass 2 million: Johns Hopkins database
U.S. coronavirus cases have been slowly ticking up since Memorial Day
Coronavirus Outbreak: Daily Updates.
The rate of increase may be slowing, but that's another matter. And we can't attribute the increase just to more testing, because the number of hospitalizations is increasing. Since the state borders aren't hermetically sealed, increases anywhere are worrisome.

 

vg is such a troll. The day after trump loses the election, vg will be on here saying "I never really liked the guy".

 

Lolz, first link:

"But views about policing remain divided along partisan and racial lines, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds."


And the actual survey question you are claiming 80% of protester support, has nothing to do with the protests, but is worded-

Do you think the George Floyd incident was a one off, or a broader problem with the police


Lolz, first link, 66% of white Americans view their local police favourably or somewhat favourable

Your usual tactic of 1/2 a dozen links that you didn't even read because they have clickbait headlines, 1/2 dozen, not just one so it gives the impression you know what you are talking about

 

So?

Really? "The actual survey question". We're talking about the Reuters poll? "Was a one off" ? You're saying the question was incomprehensible, or were they using Aussie slang? Why don't you show me the question you're talking about? P.S. I'm not " claiming" anything. I'm providing links to articles containing reports on surveys. You'll have to do better than that.

So? Do you find that somehow contradictory. BTW, I was never surveyed, but I view my local police very favorably. And I'm also sympathetic to the BLM protesters, as are my local police.

 

If he doesn't find some way of arguing that Trump actually won!

 

No, if Biden wins, I will be on here saying, ok, $40 trillion debt, 30 million unemployed.....and now what, the guy with Alzheimers is going to fix that?

 

Oh, so the Huff Post poll doesn't count anymore, because I pointed it out, copy and paste the survey question in the Reuters poll then

 

I'm glad we agree

 

So what happened to all the spikes in Covid cases the Floyd protests were going to cause? It's been three weeks


Didn't happen? OMG, I am soooooo shocked

 

You miss the points. So what if "views about policing remain divided along partisan and racial lines"? And I asked you to tell me what question in the Reuters poll you're referring to. "the actual survey I'm claiming..." Since I didn't claim anything, I don't know what you're talking about. And the question you quoted makes no sense, leading me to wonder whether or not you quoted it correctly.

The Reuters-Ipsos poll found that "A majority of Americans support peaceful protests and demonstrations, many are sympathetic to demonstrators." Reuters/Ipsos Poll: Civil unrest in the wake of George Floyd’s killing
Do you doubt that statement? It's by the pollsters.
How 'bout :"Two-thirds of Americans report they are sympathetic to those who are protesting (64%)". Also by the pollsters.
"Just 33% of Americans approve of how Donald Trump is handling the protests and demonstrations in the wake of George Floyd’s death." Ipsos
"These are some of the findings of an Ipsos poll conducted between June 1-2, 2020, on behalf of Thomson Reuters. For this survey, a sample of 1,004 adults age 18+ from the continental U.S., Alaska, and Hawaii was interviewed online in English."

Question 4.Please indicate how much you agree or disagree with each of the following statements: "Peaceful protests and demonstrations are an appropriate response to the killing of an unarmed man by police". Agree: 82%. https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default...ne_reuters_george_floyd_protests_06_02_2020_0

There are other questions. I don't see any resembling the one you purported to be quoting. You must have been trying to quote from something. What specifically was that?

 

The Floyd protests are still going on. And many of the protesters were wearing masks. Sounds like you're still doubting the reality of the virus. Is that what you're doing?

We have another test coming up, this weekend in Tulsa. The Orange One is trying to pack 'em in, masks optional. As usual, he covers his ass with a waiver form against lawsuits from Covid. These poor slobs, many in the high risk age category, will come from far and wide, listen to Trump, and go back home. We'll see if there's a spike in Covid cases. Oklahoma is one of those states experiencing a spike in the virus. Darwin strikes again!

 

What is the guy with the orange glow going to do to fix it? If he wins, you'll do a victory dance, and that concern will fade into the sunset.

 

From the Reuters link

" a majority do not support violent protests and unrest as a response to the killing of an unarmed man"

"A similar number of Americans (79%) say that the property damage caused by some demonstrators undermines the original intent of the protest’s call for justice in George Floyd’s death.

• Republicans (83%) and Democrats (77%) agree that property damage ultimately undermines the cause of the demonstrators."

So three quarters of those that identify as Democrats say property damage undermines the whole thing. And that's all races too by the way


In the future, and not just this topic, don't give me the bullshit clickbait headline. Give me what the actual survey question says


Now, be a good little lad, and run off find me a poll that tells us how many that identify as Democrats actually support the dumbass idea of defunding their local police

 

See, now you are changing the goal posts, now it's, oh, the Floyd protesters were wearing masks. Well that means we didn't need the lockdowns AT ALL as long as every one was going to wear masks. Which you have just unintentionally admitted agreement to

 

I think it was reasonable, given the shortage of ventilators, ppe, and masks, to practice shelter in place. We made enough progress with that strategy that communities are experimenting in opening back up--cautiously, with masks., gloves, hand sanitizers and social distancing. Unfortunately, because of the prevalence of folks like you, we're starting to get sloppy, and the cases are spiking in 18 states. You haven't yet established we didn't need the lockdowns. Events like the Trump rallies are really pushing the envelope.

 

No, why should that be my job? I happen to oppose defunding my local police. I think they should get more resources and higher salaries. Speaking of moving goal posts, tho, you haven't yet addressed the substance of my posts challenging your inflated estimates of the number of rioters and looters and your claim that white suburban public opinion is against the demonstrators. And you haven't yet come up with the source of that garbled quote you tried to slip by us, supposedly from the Reuters poll: "Do you think the George Floyd incident was a one off, or a broader problem with the police." Show me where that came from. Or did you make it up?

 

Change the subject again?, no, I don't think so

Let's go back to this post:

Public opinion certainly doesn't seem to be on the side of the rioters and looters, perhaps not even the idiots defacing statues

By observers do we mean the small percentage that bothered watching the news or every member of the American public old enough understand what's happening, say above 12 years old? Which is probably around 280-300 million people


If we go by 2019 figures

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

1004 fatal shootings by police all up, 370 white, 235 black

vs 67,000 drug overdose deaths 2018
vs 14000 other firearm homicides 2019
vs 38000 road fatalities

etc etc

How many women do you think really just think it's a guy thing, how many new immigrants to your country just think white and black males both are too entitled, especially if they come from countries where if you mess with police you just disappear



See if you can find a single black leader or Democrat in Congress that has said in the last 3 weeks something along the lines of; well, if we want real change let's get every 17 yr old black person into college next year, or maybe we should do something about black people killing black people or heaven forbid tell young males; DON'T RESIST ARREST for Fook sake