2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

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  1. soulcompromise

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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So let's pin this story here, as I'm sure it would be criminal negligence not telling anyone where this party was so others may get tested. I don't expect any follow up from the media



    Dr Jane Appleby, CMO Methodist Hospital San Antonio Texas, so I assume the mystery party was somewhere in San Antonio

    And, it went all around the world

    NYT

    Texas Hospital Says Man, 30, Died After Attending a ‘Covid Party’

    Newscorp Australia

    Patient who believed coronavirus was a hoax dies after COVID party

    Story seems to have already been pulled from other sights though, like the guardian uk
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, here we are in July 2020, we have Fauci saying stuff like Covid-19 could be as bad as the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic (that's the one that killed 50 million people) and that we won't have to worry about Covid in 12-18 months if we get a vaccine that's 70-75% effective (Influenza vaccine is 20% effective for over 65s)



     
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    Hmmm - proving that VG's head is thicker than a piece of wood !!!
     
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    Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

    This seems like an interesting move.

     
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    Operation warp speed? I guess even President Trump likes Star Trek.

    Slaoui (not sure how to say that) has resigned from Moderna to work for the White House.

    White House coronavirus vaccine advisor Moncef Slaoui to divest $12.4 million of Moderna holdings
     
  9. MeAgain

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    Again you seem to have little understanding.
    If the ICU units are filled or nearly filled new patients can't be admitted to those units whether they have covid or a heart attack.
     
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    Dude, use your brain, before covid they normally run at 90% capacity, why would they spend money maintaining empty beds under normal operations. The fact that they are at that same capacity now doesnt mean anything
     
  13. MeAgain

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    Where did you get that stat?
    Make it up?
    Here are a few actual facts:
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    Sigh


    Yes, and 76% is the yearly average which means over capacity in winter

    We have heard this story a half a dozen times at least across the world in the last 6 months, oh, we better build a field hospital thanks mainly to a bunch of government officials that don't manage hospitals

    Start of April, NY hit 10,000 cases a day, 5 days later, over 1000 deaths a day

    This month Texas hits same figures, 10,000 cases a day, but 5 days later only 150 deaths a day

    Why, because its Summer, peoples immune responses are slightly better in summer, and maybe there are some less deadly strains running around....and there are less people getting put on ventilators when they shouldn't be and dying as a result

    Those are the three main reasons for such a huge difference in the death rate

    Population density has nothing to do with it once they get infected. The state of Texas actually has 50% more people in it than New York. 30 million in Texas, 20 million in NY state. So not only does Texas have more hospitals and beds, they'd have a higher percentage of otherwise redundant ICU beds because its summer

    NY never used its field hospital

    Texas has 85% less deaths a day than NY did for the same number of cases

    ...and you are telling me Texas needs a field hospital??

    Duh uh errrr
     
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    This is the most intelligent thing you have said for several days...
     
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    VG is one twisted SOB which is why we like him because he keeps us on our toes.

    For VG it’s all about the number of dead and nothing else matters. There’s a name to describe that type of individual it’s called a ghoul (but let’s not get personal)

    The average age of positive cases has dropped by 15 years. Coupled with drugs which were not widely available during March and April, and better medical techniques, accounts for the lower numbers of dead.
    The experience that doctors and nurses have gained over the past five months has been invaluable in keeping patients alive.- it really is just that simple.
     
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    Yeah.
     
  18. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Which is a round about way of saying, summer, warmer weather can't possibly have anything to do with it

    Even though what Trump said was wrong and it didn't disappear, he mentioned warmer weather

    So you can't even bring yourself to even remotely entertain the idea warmer weather might have something to do with the lower death rate, because it might sound in part you are agreeing Trump was half right

    What a laugh

    American doctors did do better than Italian doctors, but that alone isn't going to account for an 85% drop on the death rate
     
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    A lot of people mention "warmer weather" when it's getting on towards spring... They do this every fucking year, and most of the time they are surprisingly correct...

    So this somehow makes Trump a stable genius, does it
     
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    Also on the moving data management over to the HHS thing. Despite you or anyones else's feelings on President Trump, it makes a whole lot more sense having the HHS, the ones actually managing your health services manage that data than the CDC

    That is the situation in almost every other country

    Trump will take credit for it. But who actually made the decision, where it actually came from we will probably never know as it will be buried under a mound of bureaucracy

    You'll have a bunch of crazy lefties screaming conspiracy and government manipulation.

    But many need more accurate data from the US. We need to know how many people actually died of covid. How many people ONLY died of covid.

    We ain't getting that under the current system
     
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