What’s needed to stop an American dictatorship?

I don't know what can be done about it, but when you have a political party and its members that believes the president is above the law, you're really screwed.

 

What utter, biased nonsense.

First, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't a divided SCOTUS agree that the administration had right to divert money to The Wall? Just because you don't like it- FWIW, I'm not sure I do- doesn't make it illegal. But for better or for worse, the Supremes sided with Trump, not you.

I will give you a good example of what I consider to be one of the most outrageous usurpations of power by the Obama administration (not to mention its patently illegal spying of Carter Page, probably for political reasons). Now I am going to guess that you don't, but the one of the most egregious examples of government grasping for power was the Obama administrations assault on the Little Sisters of the Poor for resisting ObamaCare’s contraception mandate- he even tried to force abortifacients down their throat. Simply outrageous! The Sisters prevailed in the highest court, but, perhaps as a Christian, I found it appalling that the government thought it could enforce its idea of morality on a religious organization. FWIW, that is despite my personal views on contraception that differ from the Sisters. For all his faults, Trump, bless him, expanded the religious exemption to include the sisters and like-minded groups. A clear net gain for liberty- but I strongly suspect you don't care.

Another enormous overreach of power in my mind was the Obama administration's "creative" understanding of racial discrimination. I'm not going to take the time to research it, but basically Obama and his henchmen tried to claim that a race-neutral policy that had disparate effects on different racial groups was de facto in violation of federal law. Again, bless him, Trump has a very different opinion, and American businesses are thereby relieved of one source of government oversight.

Obama was repeatedly slapped down by SCOTUS. Ref. 1 below addresses this, from which the following examples were taken.

In Hosanna‐Tabor Church v. EEOC (2012), the government sued a church school that fired a teacher for violating one of its religious tenets. The court ruled that punishing a church for not retaining an unwanted teacher violates the First Amendment.

[Note: In fact, I don't know that Cato is correct that Hosanna-Tabor directly concerned a religious issue or a personnel matter, but the issue was whether or not a non-state religious school could hire and fire who it wished and it did have a big effect on Catholic schools and what they could require of their teachers. Pertaining to this, I live in a state in which employment is "at will"- I can be fired at any time for any reason other than ones specifically protected by law, a category Democrats want to continually expand. I am not Catholic, but I teach in a Catholic school. There have occasionally been things that my students are taught that I disagree with. I figure I can either live with that, or leave. Obama sided with a teacher who thought the government should protect her].


In United States v. Jones (2012), the government claimed the power to attach a GPS device to a suspected drug dealer’s car and monitor his movements without a warrant. While the justices had differing opinions on why this violated the Fourth Amendment, all agreed that it did.


In Sackett v. EPA (2012), the government denied property owners the right to contest an order to stop building their house. The court ruled that access to courts is the least the government can provide in response to “the strong‐arming of regulated parties.”


While the conventional wisdom about Arizona v. United States (2012) is that the high court smacked down a perniciously anti‐immigrant state, Arizona actually won unanimously on its most controversial “show me your papers” provision. Not one justice accepted the theory that mere enforcement priorities trump state laws.


In Horne v. Department of Agriculture (2013), the government claimed raisin farmers weren’t entitled to judicial review of a byzantine New Deal‐era program that confiscated crops in an attempt to regulate prices. The Supreme Court again allowed plaintiffs their day in court—and two years later ruled for them 8–1 on the merits.





The above is just a partial list- in fact, I think Obama holds the record for being slapped down by SCOTUS. The least little effort on your part would have exposed to you the falseness of your claim Get a clue, sir.

1. Obama Has Lost in the Supreme Court More Than Any Modern President

 

In a 5-4 vote, with two of his recent appointees participating.

He literally tried to force abortifacients down their throats? Well, at least, the good sisters presumably being celibate, it probably didn't harm a fetus.

Well, if you're not going to take the time to research it, maybe you shouldn't bring it up?

Heavens to Mergetroid!



The above is just a partial list- in fact, I think Obama holds the record for being slapped down by SCOTUS. The least little effort on your part would have exposed to you the falseness of your claim Get a clue, sir.

1. Obama Has Lost in the Supreme Court More Than Any Modern President[/QUOTE]and that's your measure of th threat he posed to democracy? And you call me clueness/?

So Trump reversed some of Obama' decisions to please his religios base. Big deal. i say again:
"No president in recent memory has used governmental power to divert money from congressionally approved purposes to unauthorized wall building, or to make such liberal use of executive orders to usurp Congress' power of the purse,, or to send paramilitary forces into our cities, or to claimto be above the law as our current one. Your Republican "less intrusive government" is a sham and a farce!

 

Actually

Actually, mail in voting has worked just fine on the West Coast. None of the hypothetical problems the right wingers have speculated, course their efforts at voter suppression really have had the intended impact. Just ask the citizens of Wisconsin and the South. By the way the most venomous amphibian in America is the gerrymander....poisoned the democracy process in Wisconsin just as the Koch brothers hoped it would.

 

The funny thing is a large percent of mail in votes have been Republican in the last few elections.

Old men who only go out once a week to the grocery store because they are retired and all their friends are dead. It's hard to stand they have bad hips but by god they remember the 1950's and the white social order. They hated Obama and his blackness but they could not stand in a line to vote. How do you think they did?

The soldiers in the Middle East can't stand in line. Did they commit fraud too?

What if you live on a farm and it is an hour drive to the closest town? It might be easier to just mail it in.

 

Including the Trumps!

 

Republicans as a monolith like to sell themselves as small government advocates. Especially on the campaign trail. But over all, once elected many of them will inflate the size of government as a bait-and-switch.

Give the democrats some credit though, they are very transparent and do not lie about their government supremacist policies. They pitch the idea of a more intrusive government like it's a good thing. So no bait-and-switch from them.

 

your words... not ours

I think the negative spin on that, while fair, is inaccurate. It's not that we idealize a large government. I think it's the outcomes of large government that are attractive not only to democrats and the left, but to many educated people, or anyone who has given half a thought to societal problems.

 

Depends on what they're intruding about. Republicans are more likely to intrude into the bedroom and to police what people are watching or smoking. Dems are more likely to regulate business practices to protect the environment and the consumer, and to promote equality in the workplace. And neither camp is a monolith. Trump Republicans (and some Biden Democrats) are protectionists.

 

This meme describes small government republicans once they get elected

 

I’d say it’s pretty accurate though. The idea of leftism is the collective supersedes the individual.

 

well... maybe so. I guess I'm talking more about democrats in general as opposed to leftists; though we align on some issues.

 

She is a crooked prosecutor, I can leave out the word psycho I guess or not use it as in insult but I do think woman has the clinical condition of psychopathy holding back evidence and letting an innocent man languish on death row. Thats the whole lack of empathy part it takes to do things like that.. Thats what psychopathy is.

Here is the one most people saw




I will try and take it easy but our topic here is stopping an American dictatorship and we got the founding father of mass incarceration Joe Biden and someone who worked in that system sending 1500+ people to jail for Marijuana, who then laughs about smoking it herself on top of it.

Record is atrocious, lots more then just the pot thing.

cackling
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adjective

1. laughing in a loud, harsh way.

I think thats an accurate description. Happens every single interview laughs at her own statements. And every public appearance.

Power hungry I cant prove that one but its just my opinion I don't think my opinion is information or misinformation.

I dont know just think of how lame a politics forum would be if everyone agreed on everything.

You would have an OP then 20 posts "I agree" That would be incredibly boring.

 

Remember this one ?

""we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families"

 

DMV is the perfect example of how large government always operates.

Whats up with that ?

 

Sadly, I cannot say you are entirely wrong. I still think the GOP as being 20% better- check out the votes of the parties' respective NLRB appointees.

 

My comments are far better documented, considered, and researched than yours, thankyouverymuch. More importantly, perhaps, despite not being documented (which I doubt you would read anyway) my observation is correct.

 

Triggered...

 

27 blue mail boxes removed in Eugene--so far.