The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    The Senate Republicans have called Jim Comey to testify September 30th, in private of course. The Republicans can't risk a bad visual event of Trump, so it's private. The funny thing is three and a half years of Republican crying and whining about the Deep State and FISA Court and all the other stuff. Now they want an investigation 30 days before the election but can't have it in public where every American can hear Jim Comey. Remember, Comey was and is a Republican himself, and so was/is Peter Strozk, Rosenstein, and Mueller. They were all Republicans and Rosenstein was the one who limited Mueller to a criminal inquiry, not one related to national security. When Republican William Barr entered the show, Trump was completely protected, because Barr said the president could not be investigated for a crime while in office. So now after three and a half years, the Republicans don't know what to do about Trump's Russia Shenanigans and must continue to hide the facts from the American voters. Of Course, the truth has a way of coming to the surface and people do talk. And in January, we'll have a new Attorney General.
     
  2. egger

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    Trump says the Democrats are damaging the country by holding out for a larger coronavirus stimulus bill. Trump wants the same larger stimulus bill that the Democrats want. The Republicans don't want it, yet he's blaiming the Democrats.


    Trump calls for stimulus payments and massive economic relief bill, upending Republicans’ more limited approach
    President expresses support for $1.5 trillion plan produced by bipartisan group in House
    By Erica Werner and Rachael Bade
    September 17, 2020 at 7:09 AM EDT

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/16/trump-stimulus-payment-economic-relief/
     
  3. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    That makes one shitload of sense, don't it...
     
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  4. egger

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    What's the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?

    A pessimist is better informed.
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Pretty much true though isnt it


    Forget Red vs Blue. How about blue vs blue?

    I think you will all agree Newsom did a far better job than Cuomo, Inslee and Whitmer did
     
  6. egger

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  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    From that article:


    "For example, there have been 263,000 more deaths in the United States in 2020 than would have been expected based on the past several years."

    So 70,000 excess deaths, on top of covid related deaths, as a result of people being more sedentary due to shelter in place orders, (263,000 - 195,000) and only about 10% of those 195,000 covid deaths so far are covid only


    And out of the remaing 90% of the 195,000 covid deaths, 40% were from nursing homes, where on average people only ever last 6 months anyway, so half that 40% (39,000) would have been dead by now anyway even if covid 19 never existed

    So basically you killed an extra 70,000 people for only 20,000 covid only deaths so far, and 40,000 covid related deaths who would have been dead already anyway, and another 40,000 that would have been dead already anyway over the next 6 months

    And for this we ruined our economies and the chances for this current younger generation for decades to come

    Fuckn hell, there arent enough facepalms
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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  9. Just hearing on NPR. "HE" wants to go into the school systems and change Curriculums so that children will learn how great America is...I learned plenty in my schooling and life on how great America is. Again playing games to his base.

    Oh he's calling it Patriotic Education. Boy is he grasping .....
     
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  10. Tyrsonswood

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    Translation: "Fuck those old people. They aren't even really people anymore...." ~ VG
     
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  11. egger

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    Biden is currently on course to inherit the same type of mess from Trump that Obama did from Bush.


    political cartoon

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  12. egger

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    The projected electoral map based on polls hasn't changed much over the past few months. Biden has had about 270 electoral votes and Trump about 120 with about nine states in the toss-up category.


    Biden Trump Electoral Map Based on Polls


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  13. MOST that have died were very old and sick and very weak immune systems. I spent 4.5 months in rehabs for a knee infection mess, and I'm 82, and took my supplements with me and took them while in the care of the sick medical industry. The major percentage of the patients were in such grave grave health.

    People young and old don't take care of Themselves.....
     
  14. Tyrsonswood

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    That is no reason to discredit a human being the way VG does...
     
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  15. Angelmama

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    Amen.
     
  16. egger

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    More seniors are Republicans than Democrats. They were a significant part of Trump's base in 2016 and still are, but some are defecting.



    Trump has lost his senior advantage. And that could cost him in November.
    Voters over 65 were key to the president's win in 2016. But now they're defecting to Biden.
    By Sahil Kapur
    June 30, 2020, 6:40 AM EDT / Updated June 30, 2020, 6:58 AM EDT

    Trump has lost his senior advantage. And that could cost him in November.

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    "Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo said the former vice president's plans for reopening the economy include measures to protect seniors from COVID-19, and he said Biden plans to preserve the Affordable Care Act, which Trump is fighting in court to overturn.

    Trump won older voters in 2016 by promising economic prosperity and hitting nostalgic notes of an era before free trade and globalization took a toll on America's once-vibrant manufacturing sector. He benefited from the high unpopularity of his opponent at the time, Hillary Clinton, winning decisive votes from Americans who were skeptical of both candidates.

    One of them was Copan.

    "I absolutely could not vote for Hillary — had enough of the Clintons," he said. "I literally held my nose and voted for Trump. I thought it was the lesser of two evils. I just didn't realize how evil he could be.""
     
  17. egger

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    Donald Trump’s Big Problem with Senior Voters
    By John Cassidy
    June 27, 2020

    Donald Trump’s Big Problem with Senior Voters

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    "Among voters aged forty-four and under, Hillary Clinton bested Trump by fourteen percentage points, according to exit polls. But Trump carried voters between the ages of fifty and sixty-four by eight percentage points, and voters aged sixty-five or older by seven points. State by state, the numbers varied. He led Clinton among voters aged sixty-five and over by four points in Michigan, by ten points in Pennsylvania, and by one point in Wisconsin. Given the thin margins of victory that Trump enjoyed in these states, support from seniors was essential to the majority he achieved in the Electoral College.

    This year, retaining the support of seniors is obviously central to Trump’s reëlection chances. But a number of polls released this week show that he has slipped badly in this key demographic. According to a survey from the New York Times and Siena College, he is now running two points behind Joe Biden at the national level among voters aged sixty-five and over. In Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, he is trailing Biden by double digits."
     
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    Donald Trump’s Big Problem with Senior Voters

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    "Looking across all of the recent polls, a reasonable interpretation is that Trump’s mishandling of the pandemic has exacerbated seniors’ concerns about his performance as President and made Biden look even more attractive by comparison. The incendiary manner in which Trump responded to the wave of protests following the killing of George Floyd seems to have had a similar effect. At the national level, according to the Times-Siena survey, fifty-two per cent of voters aged sixty-five and over disapprove of Trump’s response, and just forty per cent approve. In some battleground states, the negative assessment of Trump’s response is even more striking, the Times polls found. In Michigan, fifty-eight per cent of seniors disapprove. In Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, sixty per cent disapprove.

    It almost goes without saying that this new polling data is alarming for the White House. But it is important to emphasize three other points. There are still four months to go until the election; polls provide a snapshot rather than a prediction; and the latest surveys show that voters, including senior voters, still give Trump positive marks on economics, which will surely be a key election issue. A CNBC All-America Economic Survey that was released this week shows Trump trailing Biden by nine points, but it also shows the President with a six-point lead on the question of which candidate has the better policies for the economy. In the Times-Siena national poll, fifty-four per cent of seniors approved of Trump’s handling of the economy, and forty-two per cent disapproved. The findings in the battleground-state polls were similar."
     
  19. egger

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    Trump's ploy aimed at the forgotten Americans and left-behinders seems to have evaporated in 2020. He's gone into full-blown, racial, trench warfare mode.



    How Trump Could Win
    The President consistently trails Joe Biden in polls, but political strategists from both parties suggest that he still has routes to reëlection.
    By Benjamin Wallace-Wells
    September 11, 2020

    How Trump Could Win

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    "Polls have generally found Trump’s support among white non-college-educated voters softening. This finding was recently echoed by the eminent Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who conducted focus groups this summer with white non-college-educated voters in rural Maine, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin, three-quarters of whom had voted for Trump in 2016 and less than half of whom planned to do so again. In the sessions, Greenberg wrote, many of the voters spoke of living with disabilities and expressed anxieties about their access to health care. Greenberg wrote, “I have never seen such a poignant discussion of the health and disability problems facing families and their children, the risks they faced at work, and the prospect of even higher health care and prescription drug costs. The final straw was a president who battled not for the ‘forgotten Americans,’ but for himself, the top one percent, and the biggest, greediest companies.”"


    "The shock of the 2016 election came from three demographically similar states—Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—but Michigan, in particular, seems like it might now be out of reach for Trump. One theory I heard from Republican strategists is that it might be worth thinking about a slightly different map than the one that won Trump the Presidency, in 2016—one in which Trump shifted his focus to Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, and Wisconsin—which might allow him to run a less traditional campaign. Each of those states has a history of intense partisan conflict—over anti-union legislation in Wisconsin, voting rights in North Carolina, immigration in Arizona, and Bush v. Gore in Florida—that has helped to entrench Party allegiances. Those states have experienced the full rancor of twenty-first-century politics; there is not much middle left to win. A Republican consultant named Jeff Roe distinguished between swing states and “split states,” which suggested a strategy based on turnout rather than persuasion. With split states, “there’s no moderating,” Roe said. “Get seventy million votes.”"
     
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  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Stop acting like there are no consequences on the non Covid side.

    Figures were the same in UK and Europe, a suspiciously large amount of excess deaths not attributed to Covid

    Working from home, not commuting, or not working sitting at home twiddling your thumbs, of course that's going to translate to more heart attacks and strokes + elective surgeries that are actually life saving + suicide and depression etc etc
     

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