The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. egger

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    As a sidenote, Trump never said the name McCain when referring to the McCain Act and when signing it.
     
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  2. Eric!

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    Oh of course not. He gets the same shitty gut feeling when he hears anything with Obama on it- same thing with McCain. He would rename it if he knew he could get away with it.
     
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  3. hotwater

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    Yeah those Cossacks did have a way with German women.

    Great thespian lovers they were not....lol...
     
  4. egger

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    Trump is still using the ploy that it's simply more people being tested that's revealing cases that he thinks are innocuous.



    Trump says we're 'rounding the turn,' but Covid-19 is spreading faster than ever, NBC numbers show
    In other coronavirus news: Wyoming is having a surge in cases, most Americans know somebody with Covid-19 and the elderly are dying "of isolation."
    By Nigel Chiwaya and Corky Siemaszko
    Oct. 27, 2020, 2:08 PM EDT

    Trump says we're 'rounding the turn,' but Covid-19 is spreading faster than ever, NBC numbers show

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    "Covid-19 infections are spreading across the United States at the fastest rate since the start of the pandemic, the latest NBC News figures showed Tuesday.

    The 71,000 new cases per day that the U.S. averaged over the past week was the most in any seven-day stretch since the crisis started and stood in stark contrast to President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that “we are rounding the turn” on the pandemic.

    And no part of the country has gone untouched by this latest surge in new coronavirus cases.

    Wyoming, which had relatively few cases until recently, reported a 475 percent spike in Covid-19 deaths in the last 14 days, the numbers showed. Nine deaths were reported Monday in Wyoming, boosting the state’s total number of coronavirus fatalities to 77, the NBC numbers showed. Of those, five were elderly residents of a long-term care facility in Big Horn County, the Wyoming Department of Health reported. Also on Monday, the state set a single day record for new cases for the second time in less than a week, with 436."
     
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  5. egger

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    Eli Lilly has stopped a trial for an antibody drug. Such setbacks are expected and are part of why a cure hasn't been right around the corner like Trump has been hoping for since winter.


    Lilly antibody drug fails in study of hospitalized Covid patients, other trials go on

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    "U.S. government officials are putting an early end to a study testing an Eli Lilly antibody drug for people hospitalized with Covid-19 because it doesn’t seem to be helping them.

    Independent monitors had paused enrollment in the study two weeks ago because of a possible safety issue. But on Monday, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which sponsors the study, said a closer look did not verify a safety problem but found a low chance that the drug would prove helpful for hospitalized patients.

    It is a setback for one of the most promising treatment approaches for Covid-19. President Donald Trump received a similar experimental, two-antibody drug from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. on an emergency basis when he was sickened with the coronavirus earlier this month."
     
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  6. egger

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    The DOJ could appeal the denial in the federal court system and eventually to the Supreme Court.

    Trump would love to have the U.S. government be the defendant for him and dispose of the case before he leaves office, which could be as soon as January 2021.



    E. Jean Carroll lawsuit: Judge rejects DOJ effort to end suit - CNNPolitics

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    "In a 61-page opinion, US District Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled that Trump "is not an 'employee of the Government,' as Congress defined that term," and therefore the lawsuit isn't, as the Justice Department argued, against the United States.

    That conclusion allows for Trump to be sued personally for defamation in the matter. The Justice Department, which hasn't indicated whether it will appeal the ruling, declined to comment.

    The Carroll case is one of a litany of legal threats posed to Trump, many of which are likely to escalate if he loses the presidential election next week.

    In his opinion, Kaplan also rejected the Justice Department's argument that Trump's statements regarding Carroll were made within the scope of his employment, writing, "while commenting on the operation of government is part of the regular business of the United States, commenting on sexual assault allegations unrelated to the operation of government is not."

    The department had argued in court filings that Trump acted in his official capacity when denying Carroll's allegations, writing that "the President addressed matters relating to his fitness for office as part of an official White House response to press inquiries.""
     
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  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So, no part of the country untouched means all those dem strongholds as well, so what's going on

    70k+ a day, at least a quarter of them have to have been wearing masks regularly

    Anyone disagree with a quarter? Even just 10% is still 7000 day, you don't think at least 10% of those people had been wearing masks

    What is really going on?; all that advice was false, eye protection and gloves just as important as masks. The most important time one should be wearing a mask is when they are indoors with people they are with for more than 15 mins; i.e family and the kids

    How many of those 70,000 a day do you think wore a mask when they were at the coffee shop or in a Walmart, but didn't bother with the mask when the kids come home from school

    The US didn't handle it well, this year, but the same shit will just happen in every other country within 2,3 years. A vaccine will maybe cut death rates by another 1/2, vaccine won't stop people being infectious for a certain period

    No measures were ever going to work in the long run
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    None of you ever seem to do any posts here about Supreme court decisions though

    So I have my doubts as to how much any of you actually give a shit about the supreme Court beyond partisan politics
     
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  9. stormountainman

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    All that advice was false? All that advice came from the Trump administration itself, did it not? The CDC and NIH work under Trump's authority in the federal public administration system, do they not? Trump knew all about the danger of this NOVEL Coronavirus early in January. The term NOVEL means it is a new virus with no known treatment available. Instead of listening to and accepting advice from neutral experts in our federal government, Trump just continued to talk through his ass and make no sense at all. Trump even dismantled an agency which President Obama had set up to deal with such a new pandemic. Trump just couldn't stand the idea that America had a Black leader who was well liked and very professional. After ten months of running his mouth and farting around, now Trump looks stupid and incompetent.
    You are wrong again.
     
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  10. Flagme15

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    Try to keep up. Citizens United has been talked about numerous times.
     
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  12. scratcho

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    The more I read about the what the new supreme court has in mind and that the republicans will cheat, lie and do whatever benefits themselves----I'm getting the feeling--a damn scary feeling--that trump is going to be back in office. If they can figure out a way to keep him in--already trying and succeeding in some cases of NOT counting ballots after election day--even though post marked BEFORE election day--stick a fork in any semblance of democracy left--we're done! And done for! And his gleeful, ignorant cult members will fall right in lockstep towards a Russian type government.
     
  13. egger

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    In the video Scaramucci mentioned how quiet Trump has been about Obama being on the campaign trail in battleground states such as FL and PA and making critical remarks about him. Trump and Obama did rallies in PA on the same day.

    Trump has been relentless in making false claims about Obama's past (empty cupboards and other empty remarks by Trump) but won't confront him now when he has the opportunity. Trump is showing himself to be a paper bag bully.
     
  14. egger

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    Trump has become so far removed from reality that it is next to impossible to have a rationale exchange with him or his followers.

    He couldn't withstand being asked about these issues and walked out of the 60 Minutes interview.



    Trump claims falsely COVID-19 cases down: US election live news

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    "Trump claims COVID-19 cases are going down in US as data shows cases rising

    President Donald Trump campaigned in Wisconsin, where COVID-19 cases are rising fast, and claimed before a large crowd of several thousand supporters that the coronavirus is going away.

    “We’re turning the corner. We’re turning the corner, We’re rounding like this racetrack, this is perfect, we’re rounding the curve. We will vanquish the virus,” Trump said.

    “It’s down to very low numbers,” Trump claimed.

    New cases are increasing in Wisconsin at a rate of 50 percent in the past two weeks. Nationwide, new cases are up 40 percent and have reached daily levels not seen since the last peak in July, according to data published by The New York Times."
     
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  15. unfocusedanakin

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    He will say the election was rigged and there is voter fraud. The courts and local Republicans will then agree with him. A conservative state will say they were victims of fraud and don't feel comfortable trusting the numbers of liberal states. The Democrats tried here and failed because we all voted and had trustworthy local polling people. Democratic states had corrupt leadership and the silent majority was cheated.

    It's interesting to me. Republicans are doing all the things they claimed Obama would do. In 2012 he was going to cancel the election and stack the courts so there could be no election. Then he was going to cancel 2016. Some of the more extreme even claimed the deep state lead by Obama would put a hit on Trump. Republicans who challenged him in the democratic process would be locked up. The local police as part of the corrupt goverment were going to come from the entire Republican party even if they just protested. So you better own guns

    Now a dictator who imprisons or kills his political rival seems the patriotic pick for Republicans. He's already said he "deserves" a third term. It's of course "a joke" to his voters but not really. The real joke is him saying what they are all thinking and seeing how upset it gets liberals. They feel empowered. Since the 1960's they have been pissed off at the progress of society. Year by year the democratic processes make things more liberal. Public views on taxes, sex, drugs, even language on TV, etc. It all leaves Republican thinking behind. They can't fairly vote their way of life into office anymore. Republicans rarely have anything good to say about their presidents. Even Regan was not popular in his time. They can never do enough to stop the Democrats. In the typical conservative way they only remember the good parts a few decades later. Trump is good now because he gives them the option to not vote anymore. The party has gone farther right as the years go by. It's not really about limited goverment anymore it's nationalist pride for the country.
     
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  16. egger

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    The Trump administration likes to play on the early part of a rising curve of new cases when a surge is occurring before the morbidity and deaths are registered which can happen weeks later. Trump prefers to make it seem like an increase in cases is innocuous and due simply to increased testing.

    Trump was wrong during the summer surge when using this ploy and he's wrong again during the autumn surge. Both situations have shown increases in the hospitalizations, morbidity, and mortality that lag an early rise in cases.



    Fact check: Trump continues to falsely claim that spike in coronavirus cases is due to heightened testing - CNNPolitics

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    "Since the week ending September 26 ... weekly hospitalization rates have increased for all age groups combined, driven primarily by an increase in rates among adults aged 50 years and older," the CDC said in its report for the week ending October 17.

    You can already see the impact of the hospitalization spike in communities around the country.

    Amid a surge in El Paso, the government of Texas has converted a convention center into a makeshift hospital to free up space in regular hospitals. With the Wisconsin health system "being overwhelmed," according to Gov. Tony Evers, the state has opened a field hospital at the park where its state fair is held. Some Utah hospitals have had to open overflow intensive care units because the permanent units have been filled.

    "Our hospitals are being overwhelmed and the stress they are experiencing is unsustainable," Gov. Gary Herbert tweeted on Thursday.
     
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    Fact check: Trump continues to falsely claim that spike in coronavirus cases is due to heightened testing - CNNPolitics

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    "The spike in US coronavirus cases is not being caused by an increase in testing. The number of confirmed new cases is increasing at a faster rate than the number of new tests. And the number of hospitalizations and deaths is also rising, which shows that, contrary to Trump's repeated claims, the increase in the case numbers isn't merely being caused by tests capturing mild cases. Taken together, the numbers tell a consistent story: the situation in the US is genuinely getting worse."

    "Not only are cases and infections increasing, but hospitalizations -- which follow case increases by several weeks -- and deaths -- which follow hospitalization increases by a week or two -- are also increasing. What's more, the proportion of tests that are positive has increased, and this correlates with increased actual spread of infection." Frieden added: "The most reliable information is positivity, and this increased in all regions of the country."

    The national positivity rate as of Saturday was 6.1%, per Johns Hopkins University data, up from 4.6% a month prior.

    If the increase in reported cases "were due to a very high level of testing, we would expect to see the percentage of tests that are positive be very low, certainly less than 3%. However that is not what we are seeing," said Aubree Gordon, associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Michigan."
     
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  18. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, Scaramucci? Seriously, he still sulking is he?

    Remind us all what he said about Obama continually raping Wall Street
     
  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Let's see, nope, deaths per day in the US has been under 1000 since August 24th, not rising

    Quite the opposite of rising
     
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