New new deal

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by DarthDva, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Do you mean statistically? The mean for homelessness or something?

    Maybe you mean as a percentage of the total homelessness in America.

    Or maybe you just like the way that sounds.


    You're taking a dump on California, and we all will just stand downwind. ... :rolleyes:
     
  2. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Ok.

    That's repetitious. Can you name one leftist? Or one lie?
     
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  3. DarthDva

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    Define your leftist policies and I will list the ones I think that are flawed.
     
  4. DarthDva

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    I don't like the way it sounds. I don't like how leftists cause homelessness with their flawed policies. I still think California should secede. Leftists do not listen to reason, they will only listen to centrists once the state fully collapses and they see for themselves.
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Conspiracy Theory much?
     
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  6. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Let's name names, ok? :)

    You must mean flawed policies like that of Bernie Sanders.

    You mentioned Andrew Yang. He is far left of center.


    :rolleyes:
     
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  7. DarthDva

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    If i pick any particular leftists you will just say no true scotsman fallacy and claim they arent "real" leftists.

    I have every right to criticize the left. I am a realist not idealist. There is no reason to have faith in the current leftists in our government.
     
  8. DarthDva

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    Not a conspiracy but hope.
     
  9. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    No. Seriously. Use a name.
     
  10. DarthDva

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    I will not name any names. Since I disagree with leftism as a whole and not any particular individual.

    Leftist policies I don't agree with:

    - Late term abortion.
    - Banning guns of the mentally ill (leftists are literally Hitler. Although Hitler was a centrist.)
    - Lack of Nationalism (leftists want multiculturalism and open borders.)
    - I agree with some radfem ideas, but i don't like how some feminists are too anti-male or claim that males have it easy. I was born male and had a horrible life.
    - Increasing taxation. Taxation is a scheme of the banks. In 1913 they said only the rich would be taxed with income tax. Now everyone is taxed even poor and middle class.
    - Obama care. I am not a Bernie expert but I get the vibe he has flawed polices as well. But not sure his plans are as bad as Obama's.
    - Middle east wars. All leftist politicians seem to want to bomb the middle east. There are exceptions like Yang, but leftists rig him to lose.
    - Forcing teens to go to school. Kamala Harris wants harsh punishment for those who play hookie.
    - Flawed unions. A lot of unions don't help poor but actually make it harder.
    - More paperwork. Too much regulation and making people fill out monthly paperwork.
    - Corrupt taxation schemes. Some leftists claim to be about "green energy" but the poor and middle class have to pay for it, while rich get profit.
    - Lack of private property. Marx was pretty based except did not approve of private property.
    - Leftist claims that right wing policies never helped the poor. For example how they named it Obama phones. When it was Republicans that created the phone policy.
    - Biased leftists in media that publish fake news. And leftist mobs that rage and use adhoms if you disagree with the fake news.
     
  11. Tyrsonswood

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    Conspiracy Theory much?
     
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  12. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    California has 163696 square miles and a population of 39plus million. Texas has 268597 square miles and a population of 29plus million. Florida has 65758 square miles and a population of 21plus million. Malta has 122 square miles and a population of 502 thousand people. In all these people we can clearly see the Republicans are the stupid sector of their population, regardless of the square miles.
     
  13. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Stupidity empowers money to decide the truth, which is why the more rural the area, the more insane and pointless their politics. The Tea Party's first victory when they were established, was to convince rural communities across the country to elect the biggest assholes around sheriff, only to all be sued for millions they couldn't afford. My work includes encouraging the idiots to kill themselves faster, by giving them whatever bullshit they demand to hear. In their case, their brains are so tiny they are difficult to distinguish from a bot, while the government will either be forced to censor specific content, or give up trying.
     
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  14. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    This thread is stupid. I'm not going to waste a lot of time arguing with the nonsense being put forth...




    Baseless vile garbage! Prove it.
     
  15. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm not so sure.

    i think that Sanders is a great example. He literally IS the left. :D


    You're being critical of Sanders. And like Beto Orourke.

    Or maybe they're "centrist". :rolleyes:


    whatever
     
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  16. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Sanders is the last feeble breath, and a testament to his tradition. Its impossible to have a left wing, when politics are indistinguishable from money. Hate is such a stupid thing to waste, when you can make money off encouraging idiots to die faster and reproduce less often. Darwinian evolution kills off the Three Stooges, who are convinced they are the superior species.
     
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  17. soulcompromise

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    Here he is on the need for a better minimum wage:

    He does not stand idly by letting the same old middle-of-the-road status quo moderate narrative dictate the shape of the world. People become disinterested when they see that they have no voice in politics.

    What we need now is for the moderate democrats to listen to reason; not to the old logic that "good 'ol fashioned hard work and pulling yourself up by your boot straps" will get us where we need to be.

    A one dollar an hour raise is $40 dollars in a 40 hour pay period! If you hike the minimum wage from $12 to $15, people will be $120 richer every time they're paid!
     
  18. Balbus

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    Darth

    LOL – so your supposed evidence is an anonymous source and things you’ve heard online, while admitting you actually don’t know if they are true or not?

    OK lets get real

    - You talk of ‘lot of various reports’ - what ‘reports’ are you referring to please link to them or say where they can be found.

    - What things have you heard online again please link to them?
     
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  19. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Darth

    There are many on the right that promote the interests of wealth and there is lots of evidence for that and that is because most of the ideologies of the right are about promoting the interests of wealth, but there are some on the right who believe that to do so promotes the interests of everyone (trickle down). Personally I’ve never meet any right winger that could rationally defend that viewpoint but there are those that genuinely believe in it.

    But where is the evidence that ALL leftists also are shills of rich corporations and only pretend to care about the poor? Because there is a lot of evidence that many on the right don’t promote the intrests of wealth but instead favour more distributive and regulatory policies that serve the interests of everyone.

    So what would you do about it – I mean if anything those on the right seem to want to undermine the democratic systems to bring about a one party state while I’ve heard of many suggestions from the left aimed a widening democracy.
     
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  20. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Here is something I posted on California a while back –

    The thing is that California has a history that involved neoliberal ideas on tax cuts that have hampered the state governments ability to act on its debt (Edit and tackle many social problems).

    California’s recent budget problems resulted from the deepest economic downturn since the Great Depression. But the state’s difficulty in addressing them was as much a political crisis as a budget crisis. Since the passage of the notorious anti-tax Prop 13 in 1978, which capped property tax rates and made it nearly impossible to raise revenue through the legislature, California has been locked into a revenue structure that, outside of boom times, proves too small to finance the public services that residents desire. Several tax cuts during the late 1990s dot-com boom, and a huge $5.5 billion annual cut to the vehicle license fee passed by Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2003, only exacerbated this imbalance. The state also had to contend with multiple veto points that allowed the minority party to control the fiscal debate.
     

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