Will you take a vaccine against Covid 19?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by pattymary, May 25, 2020.

  1. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    The Delta is apparently way more contagious. It is what happens when you don't achieve herd immunity, enough virus still circulates and has the time to change into something stronger. Mass vaccination is the ONLY way to stop this. Old notions and false impressions about vaccines have to be put aside. There is always a risk, but the risk for the population at large only increases if people refuse it.

    I talk to a lot of professional health experts who all have the same advice, get vaccinated, wear a mask, wash your hands frequently, and use hand sanitizer when you can't. Sanitize everything you bring into the house. Sanitize, sanitize, sanitize is the mantra my sister the Registered Nurse chants at us all day.
     
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  2. soulpoker

    soulpoker Senior Member

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    But my freedoms! :rolleyes:
     
  3. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    What freedom, the freedom to die?

    The freedom to cost the system tons of money trying to keep you alive on a ventilator?

    Governor Ivey has it right, it is time to start blaming and shaming the unvaccinated.
     
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  4. Toecutter

    Toecutter Senior Member

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    How can you prove who is and is not vaccinated ? Hippa laws
     
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  5. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    That is easy. The really sick ones don't have it. If the vaccinated DO get it, the symptoms are lessened and your chances of not being hospitalized are better. You have a better chance at staying alive with it.

    But really, blaming and shaming doesn't work. It just creates more pushback.
     
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  6. Toecutter

    Toecutter Senior Member

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    Exactly
     
  7. Toecutter

    Toecutter Senior Member

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    Not always, for example a friend got it, not really a healthy guy very overweight etc ,
    He said the C-19 for him was like a bad hangover

    Another is a Nurse that teaches protocols for C-19 she was hospitalized, her husband no vaccine was sick for 3/4 days

    Everyone should have a choice, when people come kicking down doors things will get ugly very quickly
     
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  8. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    These people just don't get it, they're not just playing russian roulette with their lives their playing with ours.

    While the Alpha variant is on it's way out it's quickly being replaced by the Delta and Gamma, and since the the delta variant is two to three times more contagious than gamma it will quickly become the dominant strain.

    The more the delta variant spreads the greater the chance even more dangerous mutants could evolve. we could be talking about a 5-10% mortality rate.

    Imagine one out of every ten americans who catch this new and improved mutant could die.
     
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  9. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter

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    I dont know if you have Delta over there but its taking the lives of unvaccinated fit people as well and much younger ones in the UK . I struggled with it and i am fitter than when I was in my 20s and I'm double vaccinated as well. If I hadnt had the vaccine , I think I would have been in trouble. .
     
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  10. Toecutter

    Toecutter Senior Member

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    Why do you think you keep getting C-19 if you are vaccinated ?
     
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  11. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter

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    Okay - I caught it off my wife . Once its in your household its impossible to escape from it . At the time I as fighting an ear infection of which you know about . That considerably weakened me as my body was fighting 2 assaults . I held out for a week before being surcumbed to Delta.

    My wife caught it as a work colleague who had it was sneezing over her all day . What the vaccine does will prevent you from getting it by casual means like going into a shop of walking past someone . But its not as effective when you are being bombarded all the time as my wife was . Incidently she did complain at work to no avail and the workplace ended up shutting down by order of our NHS . I need to add also the my wife's workforce are issued with 3 ply face coverings. Face coverings IMO give you about as much protection as a blamanche pudding unless your using the Biohazard types with filters attached.

    This is my 4th time of Covid . The previous 3 occasions was before I had the vaccine and I brushed it off without too much of a problem .

    Delta from our experience is a different animal . Its like the Mk1 Covid + Flu . Your bringing big lumps of Phlegm up ,you have congestion in the nostrils ,a headache from hell.loss of taste,loss of smell and streaming eyes . These symptoms you didnt have with Covid Mk1 but you have those on top such as a high temperature 39C ,aching limbs ,fatigue,in a daze and loss of strength . Breath wise I was Okay as I kept the phlegm off my lungs and used decongestants. I just really struggled on 1 day .

    Whilst recovered I have lost my sense of smell and I dont know if this will come back

    I can honestly say the vaccine prevented me from going into hospital and helped me recover quickly . without the vacinne I would have been in trouble
     
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  12. Toecutter

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    The best C-19 advice I have ever gotten was turn off the propaganda machine “TV-Raido” and talk to your Doctor…
     
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  13. ~Zen~

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    Thank you for that!
     
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  14. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    WTF is wrong with these people?

    It's not as if they're fully vaccinated and are only playing to people's fear (although I'm sure there are some people who are doing just that) these people are actually getting sick and some are dying.

     
  15. ~Zen~

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    Karma is a killer.
     
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  16. nudistguyny

    nudistguyny Senior Member

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    With millions of people world wide that have received that vaccine. And to hear people say that it has not been tested enough ? How many more people do you need to have it before you feel comfortable to get it ?

    In the United States because of our former President the virus was made a political issue. First it was ignored, then played down as to nothing worst then the common cold. Then we heard that it is just a political ploy to make the President ( at the time) look bad. Mean while thousands and thousands of people were dying Wearing a mask was made a evil thing by certain politicians. And fights and protests were held against mask wearing. Some republican run states passed laws to hamper the control of the virus because they saw it as a political hoax. So now the new virus is running rampant through those states . They now have the highest infection rates .And current death rates. And yet they still refuse to use common sense and take precautions to help slow it down or stop it. Because they were lied to in the beginning and are still being lied to everyday about it . So they still refuse to believe the truth. Let me tell you that from the experience of a loved one that this is not a joke.

    How sad is that ?
     
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    nudistguyny Senior Member

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    Last time I was at Walmart they had a blowout bin filled with masks... $1 each. I knew I should have bought some.

    Of course, it is Ohio so the bin is likely still full.
     
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  19. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    My husband and I are vaccinated. Unfortunately, the unvaccinated are skeptical because of the mixed messages in the media. If the US could make it to at least 80% (100% likely won’t happen with any vaccine) it would be interesting to see what will happen with any new variants. But remaining at 50% and many of the unvaccinated also don’t want to wear masks, I don’t get their strong opposition at this point. I’m not for forcing vaccinations but you can’t have it both ways - you can’t expect to go unvaccinated, and expect life to go on as normal as if Covid wasn’t a thing. Pretending like Covid doesn’t exist doesn’t make it go away. lol
     
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    "Of course it does" ~ Murica!
     
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