The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...5bd2d4-3281-11ec-9241-aad8e48f01ff_story.html

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    "Eastman’s first memo, only two pages long, described a six-point plan by which Pence could effectively commandeer the electoral counting process and enable Trump to win. The memo was first revealed last month in the book “Peril,” by Washington Post writers Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

    Eastman has said it was a “preliminary draft” of a more complete and nuanced memo that outlined multiple possible outcomes following the joint session of Congress on Jan. 6. The ideas in the memos were the basis for a discussion of options Pence had with Eastman and Trump in the Oval Office on Jan. 4, he has said.

    Eastman has more recently distanced himself from the memos, telling the National Review on Friday that the options he outlined did not represent his advice. He said he wrote the memos at the request of “somebody in the legal team” whose name he could not recall.

    In the Sacramento Bee, Eastman wrote on Oct. 7 that he advised Pence to delay counting the electoral votes to give the states time to resolve concerns about voting irregularities."
     
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  2. egger

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    Kelli Ward is an example of someone trying to use the violence at the Capitol as a delay to buy time for the state legislatures to decertify their votes (which was an incredible long-shot and difficult to do in some states (such as MI) because of the way the state laws are written to prevent frivolous overturning of elections.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...5bd2d4-3281-11ec-9241-aad8e48f01ff_story.html

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    "This was the strategy around which the Trump advisers in the Willard command center coalesced, according to two of the people familiar with the discussions there in the early days of January. For that scenario to upend Biden’s win, legislatures in those states would investigate alleged fraud and, if they chose, could decertify their results.

    “All we are demanding of Vice President Pence is this afternoon at one o’clock he let the legislatures of the states look into this so that we get to the bottom of it and the American people know whether we have control of the direction of our government or not!” Eastman told the crowd gathered at the Ellipse on Jan. 6. “We no longer live in a self-governing republic if we can’t get the answer to this question!”

    Pence withstood the pressure. Around 1 p.m., as he prepared to gavel in the joint session, he announced via a letter posted to Twitter that he would count the electoral college votes as they had been cast several weeks earlier.

    When the violence erupted a short time later, forcing Congress into recess, some of the most ardent Trump supporters saw an opportunity.

    “Congress is adjourned. Send the elector choice back to the legislatures,” Kelli Ward, chair of the Arizona GOP, tweeted at 3:30 p.m., more than half an hour after insurrectionists in tactical gear made their way to the floor of the Senate.

    Ward did not respond to a message seeking comment."
     
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  3. egger

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    A former military psy-ops specialist was involved in trying to shape opinion that fraud prevented Trump from winning.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...5bd2d4-3281-11ec-9241-aad8e48f01ff_story.html

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    "While the lawyers at the Willard were focused on promoting the legal strategy Eastman outlined, Kerik helped head up efforts to sift through allegations of election fraud. Phil Waldron, a retired Army colonel who specialized in psychological operations, led a team of people who provided Kerik with analyses of state data, which purported to show fraudulent voting, according to two of the people familiar with activities at the Willard.

    Waldron was working closely with Russell Ramsland, a Texas Republican who had been spreading election-fraud conspiracy theories for months before the election and submitted sworn affidavits to multiple post-election lawsuits claiming fraud, The Post has previously reported. Ramsland was present in one of the Willard rooms on the evening of Jan. 6, according to photographs posted to Instagram that circulated widely after the congressional committee’s mention of the “war room.”

    Waldron and Ramsland did not respond to messages seeking comment."
     
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  4. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    There are no winners, when the lynch mob is the only competition.
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

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    Fixed

    Bullshit...
     
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  6. egger

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    Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 2 points in hypothetical 2024 matchup: Poll
    By Christina Zhao
    10/23/21 at 9:35 PM EDT

    Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 2 points in hypothetical 2024 matchup: Poll

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    "New polling figures show President Joe Biden leading former President Donald Trump by a slim 2-point margin in a hypothetical 2024 matchup.

    In a new poll released by Redfield & Wilton Strategies Thursday, 42 percent said they will vote for Biden and 40 percent said they will vote for Trump if they are candidates in the 2024 presidential election, after weighting by likelihood to vote.

    Another 12 percent said they don't know how they would vote.

    Unsurprisingly, both candidates gained majority support among those who voted for them in the 2020 election, with 87 percent of Trump voters backing Trump again and 85 percent of Biden voters backing Biden in 2024.

    Among 2020 Trump voters, the most popular 2024 election issues are immigration (49 percent), government spending (39 percent), and unemployment and wages (37 percent).

    While the most popular 2024 election issues among 2020 Biden voters are health care (60 percent), the environment (43 percent), and unemployment and wages (34 percent)."
     
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    Jenna Ryan will be sentenced on Nov. 4.

    She's a real estate agent known for taking a private jet to DC to attend Trump's rally.


    North Texas Realtor Jenna Ryan Pleads Guilty over U.S. Capitol Riot

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    "“I was doing my duty, OK?” she told Fox4 in January. "I was doing my duty for my president."

    Later, she told the Washington Post that Donald Trump was to blame. "I bought into a lie, and the lie is the lie, and it's embarrassing," she said. "I regret everything."

    At one point, she called on Trump to pardon her and other alleged rioters, but no such pardon ever came.

    Since first making national headlines earlier this year, Ryan has prompted criticism and derision on social media time and again.

    In March, she replied to a Twitter critic who said she would end up behind bars, insisting that her white skin and blond hair meant she was “definitely not going to jail.”

    “Sorry I have blonde hair white skin a great job a great future and I'm not going to jail,” she tweeted. “Sorry to rain on your hater parade. I did nothing wrong.”"
     
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    Except for that little insurrection thing...
     
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    Lock her up!
     
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    SNL humor about Trump.


    SNL’s Michael Che Nails Trump’s New ‘Sex Offender’ Social Network

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    He was actually talking about Steve Bannon, “former White House, I want to say garbage man,” who was held in contempt of Congress this week for avoiding a subpoena in the January 6th investigation. “But this is what Bannon wants,” Jost said. “It just plays into his whole persecuted messiah complex. But Bannon is similar to Jesus in that he looks like he’s been dead for three days.”


    While that joke prompted some groans from the crowd, he got his biggest laugh when he teased Walmart’s Black Friday plans by reporting, “Experts believe it could be the most violent gathering of Walmart shoppers since January 6th.”
     
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  11. wooleeheron

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    Without a full scale quantum computer, they might as well pull numbers out of a hat.
     
  12. wooleeheron

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    She's a fucking woman, with a mouth on her, and the judges will show her all the respect they showed Martha Stewart. All conservative women, should be judged by a male jury of their peers.
     
  13. hotwater

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    The whole attack was choreographed ..................

    Ahead of Jan. 6, Willard hotel in downtown D.C. was a Trump team ‘command center’ for effort to deny Biden the presidency


    They called it the “command center,” a set of rooms and suites in the posh Willard hotel a block from the White House where some of President Donald Trump’s most loyal lieutenants were working day and night with one goal in mind: overturning the results of the 2020 election.

    The Jan. 6 rally on the Ellipse and the ensuing attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob would draw the world’s attention to the quest to physically block Congress from affirming Joe Biden’s victory. But the activities at the Willard that week add to an emerging picture of a less visible effort, mapped out in memos by a conservative pro-Trump legal scholar and pursued by a team of

    presidential advisers and lawyers seeking to pull off what they claim was a legal strategy to reinstate Trump for a second term.

    They were led by Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani. Former chief White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon was an occasional presence as the effort’s senior political adviser. Former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik was there as an investigator. Also present was John Eastman, the scholar, who outlined scenarios for denying Biden the presidency in an Oval Office meeting on Jan. 4 with Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.
     
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    Column: Why is Trump running for president again? To stay out of jail

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    "In this case, the claim sounds far-fetched: How can a former president assert executive privilege, especially over conversations with someone like Bannon, who wasn’t a government official at the time?

    But constitutional lawyers say Trump has several arguments he can make. He’ll probably try them all.

    First, a former president does have the right to assert executive privilege. Trump can thank former President Nixon for that, fittingly enough. In 1977, Nixon tried to block the federal government from releasing his presidential papers; he lost, but in deciding the case, the Supreme Court declared that former presidents can assert the privilege under some circumstances.

    As for Bannon, the Justice Department has long argued that executive privilege can protect a president’s meetings with nonemployees as long as the discussion covers official business. In January, Bannon reportedly urged Trump to block Congress from certifying Biden’s election, then told listeners of his Jan. 5 podcast: “All hell is going to break loose tomorrow.”

    “If the cases are argued on the merits, Trump and Bannon are unlikely to prevail,” Jonathan Shaub, a former Justice Department lawyer who now teaches at University of Kentucky's law school, told me.

    “Executive privilege doesn’t apply to acts taken in a personal or political capacity, and it doesn’t apply when there are concrete allegations of wrongdoing.”

    But winning may not be the point.

    “In the end, this is all about delay,” Shaub said."
     
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    In Trump's perception, trying to violently overthrow a legitimate election is official business.
     
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    Column: Why is Trump running for president again? To stay out of jail

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    "Meanwhile, Trump has made his defense almost entirely political, not only denouncing the House investigation but praising the mob that invaded the capital.

    “The insurrection took place on Nov. 3, election day,” he said in a written statement last week. “Jan. 6 was the protest!”

    He’s used the investigation to raise money for his political action committee, which has collected millions.

    “The Left will never stop coming after me,” he wrote in an email to donors last week. “Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to make a statement to the Left that you’ll ALWAYS stand with YOUR President.”"
     
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  17. wooleeheron

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    Donald Duck should have been thrown in jail decades ago, and never had to become president to avoid jail before. The idea the judicial system is broken has yet to penetrate the brains of half the damned country, but a functional judicial system implies people actually share the same reality. Two party political systems, require someone actually shares their words and talks, who actually knows how to listen.
     
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    After having his mob attack the police, members of Congress, and his own Vice President, Trump uses the persecution ploy.

    Trump:

    “The Left will never stop coming after me. Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to make a statement to the Left that you’ll ALWAYS stand with YOUR President.”"
     
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  19. wooleeheron

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    Its not a persecution ploy, he knows damned well the entire GOP is lily white and believes they own the damned country and can do whatever the fuck they want. Seriously, the GOP has been pushing the idea that white people founded the country, run the country, and can tell the rest of the population to go to hell anytime they want. White privilege might as well be stamped on their birth certificates even according to the sociologists, and the assholes believe the government and judicial system is theirs to with as they please.

    Considering they shredded the constitution, declared Fox News entertainment, rigged our elections, and installed conservative judges all over the country, I think they have a legitimate claim on owning the government.
     
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    Trump remark about the dictator of N. Korea, Kim Jong-un, during an interview with Hannity on Fox before his Alabama rally in August 2021.

    Trump still thinks he averted a big nuclear war with N. Korea.

    Trump:

    "I get along with him great. and I got along with him great. He doesn't like Biden much, I'll tell you that."
     

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