The Donald Trump Score Card

County clerk Tina Peters of Colorado made the same type of claims as Ben Cotton of Arizona.

 

This is absolute horseshit. Storage limits. Please. Storage is practically free and limitless today. Plus election data is small on a per capita basis - we're not saving GIGs of data per vote.

 

The circus atmosphere surrounding the behavior of Peters and her election fraud truther narratives..


Tempers flare at Mesa County protest as judge prepares to decide Tina Peters’ role in upcoming election

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"Peters’ news conference momentarily spun out of control when a protester with a “Protect Mesa County from crazy” sign, heckled Bishop. “You are not even from Mesa County!” shouted Matt Crowe, a teacher at Palisade High School. “You are an agitator.”

Bishop, who was one of Republican U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert’s campaign managers during her 2020 run for congress, lives in neighboring Garfield County.

Angry Peters supporters surrounded Crowe. They shouted and held their signs in front of him. In the melee, a woman who has been a regular at Peters’ rallies and had crowded in close to Crowe, fell to the pavement and hit her head. The mob began yelling that she had been assaulted by Crowe.

The woman was identified as Roxanne Lewis and as a member of the right-wing Stand for the Constitution organization. When she was asked later what happened, she told a reporter that someone had stepped on her foot before she fell.

Mesa County Sheriff’s deputies who had been inside the courthouse for the commissioners’ meeting came out and settled the crowd as an ambulance wheeled the woman off on a gurney and assessed her for a possible concussion.

Peters and Bishop continued their speeches while members of the crowd, riled up by the physical altercation, hollered about “baby killers,” and jeered Grand Junction Daily Sentinel reporter Charles Ashby, who has been reporting regularly on the Peters’ controversy.""

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ical-prosecutions-he-needs-investigate-trump/

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"One of the most difficult issues facing any democratic leader is whether to prosecute a predecessor for alleged wrongdoing. Imprisoning a rival can look like vindictiveness and spark a violent backlash (as in South Africa). But not prosecuting a corrupt leader can be an invitation to even greater abuses. “Our research on prosecuting world leaders,” write three University of Washington researchers, “finds that both sweeping immunity and overzealous prosecutions can undermine democracy.”

That is the thorny dilemma confronting Attorney General Merrick Garland now that the House has voted to hold former Trump White House aide Stephen K. Bannon in criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to cooperate with an investigation of the events of Jan. 6. Whether or not the Justice Department prosecutes Bannon will signal whether Garland will remain content to target the rank-and-file terrorists who invaded the Capitol — to date some 650 suspects have been arrested — or whether he will go after the capos who incited the insurrection.

So far, Garland has been pretty restrained in the exercise of his prosecutorial powers when it comes to former president Donald Trump and his confederates — which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The Justice Department has indicted Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a Trump friend and fundraiser, on charges of being an unregistered foreign lobbyist, and it is investigating Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani’s tangled ties to Ukraine. The Justice Department might be pursuing other investigations in secret, but many observers think that Garland is deliberately deferring to local prosecutors, where he can, to avoid politically vexatious cases."

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ical-prosecutions-he-needs-investigate-trump/

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"The Trump Organization and its longtime finance chief, Allen H. Weisselberg, have already been indicted on tax fraud and other charges by the Manhattan district attorney. Now the company faces an investigation by the Westchester County, N.Y., district attorney’s office, which is examining financial dealings at a golf course the company owns. The Fulton County district attorney is also investigating Trump for his attempts to interfere with the 2020 election in Georgia. (Trump was taped telling the Georgia secretary of state, “I just want to find 11,780 votes.”)

But is this sufficient given the extent of Trump’s abuses? Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, doesn’t think so. Last week, he told Yahoo News: “I think there’s a real desire on the part of the attorney general, for the most part, not to look backward. Do I disagree with that? I do disagree with that, and I disagree with it most vehemently … In my view, you don’t ignore the crimes that have been committed by a president of the United States.”

There is a long list of alleged offenses for which Trump should be investigated. Trump’s former attorney, Michael Cohen, was sentenced to three years in prison in part for violating campaign finance laws by paying off two of Trump’s rumored girlfriends during the 2016 campaign. Yet Trump (“Individual 1”) has never been charged. Schiff asks: “So what’s the argument that the guy that did the coordinating and did the directing gets a pass?”"

 

Trump was one of the people who started the claim on his website of Maricopa County allegedly deleting its election records. Other jumped on the bandwagon, such as Cotton. None of them knew what they were talking about.

Cotton later stated that he found the data he wanted.


Arizona auditors backtrack, say no election data destroyed

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"“I have the information I need from the recovery efforts of the data,” said Cotton, founder of CyFIR LLC.

He spoke at a livestreamed hearing called by Republican Senate President Karen Fann to demand answers from county officials about the allegation of deleted data and improper documentation of ballot storage.

The GOP-controlled county Board of Supervisors refused to show up, instead holding a blistering meeting of their own Monday to refute the allegations. They called the audit a “sham” and said Fann's auditors are incompetent."

 

Mark Meadows is following Trump's orders and refusing to testify before the select committee.


Trump's chief of staff was warned that a Jan. 6 rally could turn violent but did nothing about it, report says. Then the Capitol riot happened.

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"Pro-Trump rally organizers who helped plan the "Save America" protest on January 6 said they told then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows that it had the potential to turn violent but he did nothing about it, Rolling Stone reported.

The two unnamed sources, who were involved in organizing the main pro-Trump rally at the Ellipse, a park near the White House, told Rolling Stone that Meadows played a major role in their conversations.

The rally, which included a speech by then-President Donald Trump, was one of many that preceded the attack on the US Capitol.

"Meadows was 100 percent made aware of what was going on," one of the rally organizers told Rolling Stone. "He's also like a regular figure in these really tiny groups of national organizers."

Both organizers also said that prior to the rally they were in talks with Ali Alexander, the leader of Stop the Steal, one of the main groups promoting efforts to dispute Trump's 2020 election loss."

 

And believe you me, they know incompetent when they see it......they see it all the time in the mirror.

 

Some of the GOP who are county clerks, recorders, and members of election boards haven't yet become as corrupt as some of the members of state legislatures who have been promoting Trump's bogus election claims, such as those in the AZ legislature. They are still appealing to election laws and rebutting ludicrous attempts to overturn legitimate elections.

Disturbing is the prospect that Trump's truthers will infiltrate election boards and go along with people like Trump and corrupt state legislators to overturn legitimate elections, similar to how Tina Peters in Colorado went completely rogue (although she was rogue from the start and managed to survive a recall attempt).

The death threats that Trumpers have leveled at law-abiding officials in election-related offices is forcing them to consider leaving, which opens the door to fringe people assuming the positions.

 

Elected officials can't easily be removed for corrupt behavior. Approaches for removing them include recalls (like the failed one on Tina Peters) or having the courts step in and place a restriction on the duties of an official, which is what occurred with Peters.

Criminal prosecution is another. Peters is under criminal investigation by state and federal authorities.

 

Half the damned country likes Donald Duck, so you'll have to redefine "fringe".

 

Trump and Fox promoting the dead voter exaggeration.


Analysis | The Trump team and Fox News alleged dead voters. Most cases were either debunked or actually involved Republicans.
By Aaron Blake, Senior reporter
October 25, 2021 11:50 a.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...er-debunked-or-actually-involved-republicans/

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"President Donald Trump and those around him threw a multitude of voter-fraud conspiracy theories at the wall after the 2020 election. And few were as pervasive as the idea that people rose from the dead to help defeat Trump’s reelection bid.

Unlike many of the often-nebulous claims, these ones carried the benefit of often having been rather specific — citing actual dead people, by name, who supposedly voted. This made them actually verifiable.

Nearly a year later, those specific claims have provided a case study in — and a microcosm of — just how ridiculous this whole exercise was.

The specific dead people cited by Trump and his allies have, in most cases, proved to not actually have been cases of dead people’s identities used fraudulently to vote. And in several other cases, in which a dead person was actually recorded as voting, the culprit has been identified: not a systemic effort to inflate vote totals for President Biden, but rather a Republican.

On New Year’s Day, the conservative Daily Signal ran down some of the names that had been cited. The Trump campaign had named four people in Pennsylvania and four in Georgia, including in a series of news releases called “Victims of Voter Fraud.” The Nevada Republican Party cited another two in that state, calling one of them “concrete” evidence of irregularities. Fox News’s Tucker Carlson then laundered those names and another in a segment on dead people supposedly voting, saying, “What we’re about to tell you is accurate. It’s not a theory. It happened, and we can prove it.”

Of the 11 names cited in all of this, though, none has been shown to involve the identities of dead people used to vote for Biden. Most have been either debunked or pointed in the opposite direction.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...er-debunked-or-actually-involved-republicans/

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"The latest example involves a man in Nevada who said someone had voted in the name of his dead wife, Rosemarie Hartle. This was hailed widely on conservative media. It was the case the Nevada GOP said showed the “concrete” evidence of irregularities. We learned late last week that there might have been fraud involved, but the alleged fraud was perpetrated by a Republican with ties to the Trump campaign. The man, Donald Kirk Hartle, has been charged with voting in his dead wife’s name.

The situation was much that same with another name the Trump campaign cited in Pennsylvania, Elizabeth Bartman. Not long after it lifted that case up, Bartman’s son Bruce admitted he had registered and voted in his long-dead mother’s name to help Trump. He pleaded guilty."

 

If the department of justice allows these lawbreakers--including the legislators--NO--MOST ESPECIALLY THE LEGISLATORS--to attempt an ACTUAL overthrow of an election egged on by a mentally ill son of a bitch that never should have been allowed anywhere near ANY office of responsibility-----this country is doomed for sure.

And by the way----trumps offspring-----anyone expect anything different than their mentally deficient father as to when they constantly show their asses whenever they speak?? What a nothing stupid, lying punk that Don jr is.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...er-debunked-or-actually-involved-republicans/

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"Among the other names cited by the Trump campaign and the Nevada GOP:

Three other three cases the Trump campaign and the Nevada GOP cited — those involving John H. Granahan of Pennsylvania, Fred Stokes Jr. of Nevada and Edward Skwiot of Georgia — have not resulted in evidence of wrongdoing or criminal charges. In the case of Stokes, there is a Fred Stokes III who is registered at the same address.

Backers of Trump’s fraud claims will look at the above and note that some of these instances have resulted in fraud charges. And that’s true!

But even if you set aside the fact that the proven instances involve fraud by Republicans and Trump backers, not Democrats, these involve not apparent systemic fraud but rather people seeking to exploit unusual circumstances involving recent deaths of their own loved ones."

 

Tucker Carlson later admitted that some of his claimed dead voters turned out to be alive.

He should have investigated it before making misguided claims.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...er-debunked-or-actually-involved-republicans/

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"Carlson, in his Nov. 11 segment, mentioned seven names while claiming his allegations were “accurate” and “not a theory.” Most of the names he mentioned were either debunked or now involve alleged fraud by a Trump supporter. (Carlson’s segment now carries a remarkable correction stating his show “began to learn some of the specific dead voters reported to us as deceased are in fact alive” — as if it had no ability to actually look into the claims it stated were bona fide proof.)

Nearly a year later, basically none of the Trump team’s allegations of voter fraud have actually panned out. But the dead-voters allegation is instructive in that it has proved especially specious — and if anything, according to the examples cited by the Trump campaign itself, points more to an effort to help Trump than hurt him."

 

Fair is fair: I detest republicans and many conservatives. Now in todays news, Sinema, along with at least 2 other DEMOCRATS are opposing the bill to allow the government to be able to reign in exorbitant drug prices allow medicare to bargain for better prices. Along with Manchin , and I'm going to assume some other democrats , there are many rats all over the government!!

 

It's factual that a few dead people voted. It appears that most of the the dead people were abused by Trump supporters voting multiple times for Trump.

Carlson's statement:

"As we reported last week, dead Americans voted in this election. We shared a few examples. But on Friday, we began to learn some of the specific dead voters reported to us as deceased are in fact alive. We initially corrected this on Friday. We regret not catching it earlier. But the truth remains: dead people voted in the election."

 

The way the repubs described the dead voting--it would have had to have been like WEEKEND AT BERNIES