North Korea Is Testing Nukes

Interesting article about the eventual downfall of North Korea and the potential for "loose nukes."

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-20/preparing-for-north-korea-s-inevitable-collapse

 

I just wonder if any of them came back home?

 

What's the point of testing them underground? What are they going to dig to America or something? Lol. Well done, your bomb works underground. *clap* *clap* ... *clap* :unsure:

 

Ha Ha You Never Fail Mate !

 

They should set up a target in Pyongyang and see just how accurate it really is!! LOL

just kidding, that's kinda cruel.

 

Nukes are tested underground to keep radioactive material out of the atmosphere which drifts and falls. Its called radioactive fallout and is a considerable destructive force associated with nuclear weapons beyond just the initial explosion. Bombs are also sometimes tested dropped from planes, and detonate in midair, before hitting the ground so that it does not blow up debris into the atmosphere in order to limit fallout. The United States tests nuclear weapons underground as well.

 

But if you're making nuclear weapons with the intention of use, who cares about the nuclear fallout? And what damage is being done to the underground surface etc? No wonder Mother Earth is hitting us with earthquakes at the moment.

It's just dumb. It's like "well we'll save what we can, now, just so we can say we tried before the rest of the nukes fell"

 

But we dont live in a perfect world, and as it stands now this is the safest way to test nuclear weapons. Underground. Not blowing gigantic plumes of toxicity up in your own backyard. You dont shit where you sleep. With the prospect of mutually assured destruction, nuclear capability is either insane or just for posturing. In the mutually assured destruction doctrine, any nuclear attack would be countered with an equal or greater amount of force ensuring total destruction for all involved. There are even systems in place that act as a "dead hand" so that in a nuclear attack if everything is destroyed, a counter attack will still be carried out. Even if there is no government to call an attack and no military to launch an attack.

 

make sure you are using iodized salt.

 

All these 'tests' - done in the safest environment(?) - will do is test the patience of Mother Earth - and Nature, is clinical, unforgiving and much more Powerful than any man-made weapon of mass destruction ... "When we we ever learn" ?!

 

Yeah I'm sure all this underground testing is great for the water supply. Much less all the "fault lines" in our mother earth. Bunch of dumb asses!
Someday that's going to be our future's undoing.

 

,,, and makes one think, who needs to make an attack on a heavily defended military base, when a strike, say on the San Andreas faultline would be FAR more destructive

 

North Korea tested a hypersonic missile near the sea of Japan.

Their leader looks thin now; much thinner than before.

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North Korea... it's difficult for me to put any spin on the situation their. As you all know, I like to add a little bit of peaceful rhetoric to matters of foregin interaction if I can.

And while not overtly hostile (he didn't aim it at us... yet) the demonstration sends a message: they have the capability to strike not only at a distance, but at a velocity difficult to counteract.

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North Korea is intolerant. Their governance is not like ours; not even a little. You may be familiar with KPop, or maybe you don't know what it is... It's a style of popular music that has even made it as far as our shores here in the US. But it's native to Korea. Here is Coldplay with a KPop artist:

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The point of mentioning the music is, it's not allowed in North Korea. In fact, people of North Korea historically have been reprimanded for listening to it. Some have been killed.

North Korea Executes People for Watching K-Pop, Rights Group Says - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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I wish in my heart however that we could have diplomatic relations with all nations; including theirs. Sadly, that is a blatant human rights situation and in my opinion it doesn't inhibit their power or influence in a material way; not to the extent that a person be executed for listening to it.

This isn't the only problem. There seems to also be an ongoing disagreement between North Korea and South Korea.

I'm not old enough to know about it, and somehow I slept that day in class when we learned about the Korean war. But here's an excerpt from an article about it:

Korean War - Wikipedia

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I'm hopeful for a diplomatic future. Does it require that North Korea leave its missile defenses behind? Probably not completely. But as a demonstration to counter the view that they are unthinking and intolerant, I believe it would help the world's media to report them in a new way.

If North Korea enters talks and de-escalates tensions, then allows in some small ways oversight of its efforts to enter the sphere of global peace and unity by committing to a plan of inspection by a neutral party (perhaps this shouldn't be done by the United States; at least not initially) that will help foster a notion of compliance,

I think they stand to gain a lot of ground economically and in social capital.

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There isn't a better time than now though. I don't think we'll be in the White House (we... I mean Democrats*) in 2024. I think it will be Ted Cruz or Ben Sasse, and with that you've got a different set of military ideals.

That will be lots of language about "denuclearization" that will look angry and unhappy for anyone looking on objectively.

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I'm hopeful though that North Korea will talk with us, and hopeful that we can also discuss their hypersonic missiles. The United States is a long distance from North Korea. I'm wondering why they think they need to have capability to effect the mainland.

 

This thread was started in 2016. N. Korea sent up a couple more this week. USA has too many problems of their own. I have to wonder why neighbor countries are not more concerned.

 

Because there are no 'issues' between North Korea and its neighbours with the exception of South Korea, so there is nothing for them to be concerned about.

 

I don't think other countries care much for US involvement in their affairs. I see why with the shape this country is in.