Is it time to talk about guns?

The 30-30 Winchester is of similar ballistics to the Russian 7.39 in the SKS or AK. The 30-30 has a soft lead bullet which is good for big game. If you need to take several shots at a deer from 200 yards, there might be a problem, because there might be a hunter on the other side. I suggest you get closer. Try it from 70 yards. That would be much more sportsmanlike than taking a chance on a long shot. When I did hunt, I never took chances on the safety of other hunters, or a wounded deer. A wounded deer suffers needlessly and might require a long walk to retrieve. A true sportsman would use only one round and drop the deer on the spot. In Colorado and Wyoming, the government requires that you get close enough to verify the number of points on the antlers. After the kill, you'll have to field dress it and take home the meat. Leaving an animal after you kill it is blasphemy.

 

Me either. I have guns, and much rather not have to use them, but damn sure don’t want to be in an unexpected/unforeseen gunfight without one. I’ve seen too much death in my lifetime (mostly as a service member) to understand why people glorify them.

 

FOX news... Fair and Balanced.

 

As far as a weapon/gun for home defense is really more of a personal choice. but a couple of things to consider. bad encountering a 12ga shot gun would be very intimidating. And a 12 ga. slug or buck shot makes a large pattern and likely to hit your target without a lot of effort. but you're limited to 5 shots. for some that may be enough. An AR15 style rifle is a short barrel easier to maneuver and can hold more rounds depending on the mag you use. Just my HO.

 

I think 5 buck shot rounds is enough for one intruder. But if there’s more than one, then yes, agreed, there would be a problem, especially if both are armed. In those tense moments you tend to fire more than you realize, and running out comes as a surprise to those not mentally prepared (or trained) to quick reload. Takes more effort with a shotgun, versus an AR15 or pistol.

 

Oh man, I didn't even remember that tragedy. The one I was thinking of was a James Jordan, another crazed lunatic out on the loose.

 

I figure best to plan for the worst possible situation and hope for the best. (best being once bad guy here's the cocking of the hammer or bolt riding forward he gets the hell out. LOL.) But, In most cases you will encounter more than one bad guy. But whatever you use i would always enciurage to training, training and more training. And learn your responsibilities and legalities for firearm ownership.

 

FYI, all the legacy sources are propaganda, people out to make a buck peddling garbage to the rubes.

I usually see ABC (CBS & NBC) also PBS and BBC, and Fox.

Basically, people who always believe one faction and call another inaccurate and invalidated are deceiving themselves.

 

I can put five rounds in a circle the size of a half-dollar at 200 yards. Plus, any deer I've taken have been on the side of a far ridge, no chance of anyone behind them. Likewise ground hogs in a field, always a rise behind to act as a back stop.

 

All good points.

 

My bedside grab is #9 shot. One will stop an advancing intruder. I keep the short slug barrel on it which is maneuverable enough for me

 

Fox is almost pure right wing propaganda and is definitely a legacy network --Rupert Murdoch to his sons when he passes. A legacy is something left to someone or more people usually upon death. Explain how CBS,ABC,NBC BBC are legacy networks.

 

Our family has plenty of guns--we don't hunt , but shoot targets for fun. However, we are fully prepared to defend ourselves in the event of intrusion.

 

SSHHHH, don't let then know what you have.

 

Being a good hunter and great at target practice does not equate to your accuracy, ability or reaction in a self defense situation. 1) the deer and targets aren't shooting back. 2) in a self defense situation emotions and adrenaline is so high you may shoot many rounds and miss your target. Which is why Train, Train and train. the more you train with proper instructors and classes the better you will be in RL situations. again JMHO.

 

All good points? We already have ALL the shit they were whining about- and THEN some…
Fox News is horrible.