Is it time to talk about guns?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Mar 24, 2021.

  1. mcme

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    I lived in California when ray gun was governor.
    first of all he was a two bit actor, a terrible governor, and the worst president in my 60+ years, until trump came along.
     
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    The idea is quite simple, the information you provided was inaccurate, I showed you how things are done legally to purchase what one desires,

    Nothing more,
     
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    What is your point ?
     
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    You anti-2nd amendment and anti-gun proponents seem to have this perspective: “Guns, in the wrong hands, cause problems. Therefore guns are problems.”
    My point is: Anything “in the wrong hands” will cause problems. … whether it’s an impaired surgeon with a scalpel, an inebriated driver behind the wheel, or your electrician without proper training.
    The issue is “in the wrong hands”.
    I trust that most here do not want to disarm the public to such an extent that only the police and criminals are armed.
    Guys and girls, get trained, get armed, grow some balls, and be available to protect and defend your friends and family.
     
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    My point?
    Why would you post anything that fool said. The only thing he ever did was grant amnesty to "illegals", in 1986. republicans conveniently forget that.
     
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    Thank You for the information,
     
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    Opinion | Mexico’s Soaring Murder Rate Proves Gun Control Is Deadly


    Another month, another record number of murders in Mexico. For the first nine months of 2019, Mexico had 25,890 murders—almost six times as many murders per 100,000 people as in the U.S. Does Mexico need stricter gun control?

    No. Its gun laws are among the least permissive in the world. For decades Mexico has had only one gun store in the entire country, a military-run establishment in Mexico City. The store’s prices are very expensive, and the most powerful rifle that you can buy there is a .22 caliber. There’s no “gun-show loophole”—any person-to-person firearm transfers are illegal without an “extraordinary” permit that never seems to be issued. One may sell a gun only to the government, and then the government has to decide to sell it to someone else.
     
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    Firearms regulation in Mexico - Wikipedia

    Mexico has extremely restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally. That said, there is a common misconception that firearms are illegal in Mexico and that no person may possess them.[3] This belief originates from the general perception that only members of law enforcement, the armed forces, or those in armed security protection are authorized to have them. While it is true that Mexico possesses strict gun laws,[4] where most types and calibers are reserved to military and law enforcement, the acquisition and ownership of certain firearms and ammunition remains a constitutional right to all Mexican citizens and foreign legal residents;[5] given the requirements and conditions to exercise such right are fulfilled in accordance to the law.[6]
     
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    Aren't you paying attention? You claim assault weapons are no more dangerous than any other weapon, yet get all excited when someone wants to ban them.
     
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    I don't know who you are referring to as anti 2nd...but you don't seem to understand that a single shot .22 pistol in the hands of the wrong person is not the same thing as an AR 15 or other assault weapon in the hands of the wrong person.

    Nor is a surgeon with a scalpel, an electrician, or drunk driver as dangerous as a an AR 15 in the hands of the wrong person.
     
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    In their defense, the meme clearly says staff, not students.
     
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    I don't feel very excited. I simply point out that as things stand legally, and based on the effectiveness of the bans you suggest, anyone who'd like to, and is legally in a position to, will be able to have the ar15 they want.
    If you want to do something effective, work the angle of keeping them away from irresponsible people. You have a chance there at least.
     
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    They are equally dangerous. The dummies without firearms make up for it in numbers and a lack of intent that disguises it as acceptable.
     
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    Can't say for sure. Are they violating community standards? Or just helping to shore up a position you don't like?
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