The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. hotwater

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    I'd say we're in agreement

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    Well... He's not wrong.
     
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    Hey dumbass, it's spelled "Jeffrey". Oh, eventually the Epstein-Trump videos will come out.

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    New meaning for MAGA

    Making Attorneys Get Attorneys It seems that almost all of Trump's lawyers are running into legal issues defending Trump . That now require them to get their own lawyers ..
    interesting situation .
     
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    The issue of who exactly will resolve the issue of Trump's unsubstantiated claims of declassification, executive privilege, and personal property remains cloudy in Trump's current court case. It could be decided by the special master, Judge Cannon, or another unspecified judge.

    The special master could go through 11,000 documents and Trump could argue against opinion made on some or all of them, still claiming that they are his personal property based on unsubstantiated claims of declassification and executive privilege.

    A special master would seem appropriate for filtering documents in a situation where the claims aren't murky and where the criteria for resolving them have already been established, in contrast to Trump's vague assertions (maybe he declassified them which maybe makes him the owner outright) and Judge Cannon's lack of decisiveness and leaving the matter to a retired judge to decide.
     
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    Trump shadowy claim that he possibly declassified the documents doesn't nevessarily give him immediate outright ownership of them. He hasn't shown evidence of declassifying them, turning them over to the National Archives, and allowing the NA To disperse the documents to those who request them, including a former president.

    Trump's attorneys have snubbed the formal process as bureaucracy.
     
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    Nixon claimed executive privilege twice regarding Watergate-related documents, once while still in office and again later while out of office. He lost twice. Likewise, Trump lost against the Jan. 6 committee that involved a claim against Congress, another branch of government. That's in contrast to a claim of executive privilege (by a former president, Trump) against the current operations of the executive branch itself that involve a criminal case, which seems even more dubious,

    In Nixon's two cases, the issue wasn't left to a special master. It went through a long-winded court process all the way through the Supreme Court. Those judgments (and other Supreme Court cases involving such issues) could have been used as precedent by Judge Cannon to resolve at least some of the issues with Trump's documents at Mar-a-Lago without having to appoint and rely on a special master.

    Cannon could have requested Trump to substantiate his shadowy claims about executive privilege and declassification before giving him such a broad benefit of doubt. If he couldn't produce evidence, then the burden would be on him to go up against the DOJ to stop it from using the documents in a criminal investigation instead of the DOJ being stymied by Trump and his nebulous claims.


    Trump Loses Big on Executive Privilege
     
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    Trump rages at Fulton County prosecutor as Georgia election probe continues

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    "The twice-impeached ex-president said Ms Willis “ is basing her potential claims on trying to find a tiny word or phrase (that isn’t there) during an absolutely PERFECT phone call,” a now-infamous conversation between Mr Trump, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and a group of Trump campaign attorneys and associates.

    That phone call, which was recorded and later leaked to news outlets, was when Mr Trump asked Mr Raffensperger — Georgia’s top elections official — to “find 11,780 votes” so his loss to Joe Biden in the state could be invalidated."
     
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