Why does everyone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?

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  1. scratcho

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    It's ever been thus, from the days of clubs and rocks to the present. We will somehow manage to bring an end to all sentient life on this little blue ball.
     
  2. Intrepid37

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    If we don't, something will.

    It's inevitable.
     
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  3. Shy0ne

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    They create the problem and have and army psychotherapists to beat down our self confidence by causing confusion and blaming it all on us.


    They alter our reality, reframing it through the agenda of the person [government is a legal 'Person'] who doesn't want the truth to come out. Being lied to makes you feel insecure – your version of the truth is discredited. It also makes you feel unimportant – the person lying to you didn't value you enough to tell the truth.Feb 9, 2022

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    It seems people here have never really studied the typical personality characteristics of white collar criminals, and suffice to say government administrations are in fact predominantly white collar.

    https://www.researchgate.net/profil...sonality-traits-in-White-Collar-criminals.pdf

    Which leads to Tish trying to put his psychopathic umbrella over conspiracy and their associated theory identifying a conspiracy which I can see as reasonable ONLY if someone starts going over the deep edge with lizard people and the ridiculous theories some people despite no such claims were made.

    He mentioned the illuminati as part of his conspiracy theorist are kooks claim throwing everything he disagrees with in the same basket under the same umbrella when in FACT its a very real group that happens to be anti Christian.


    Illuminati

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This article is about the secret society.

    Adam Weishaupt (1748–1830), founder of the Illuminati

    The Illuminati (/ɪˌluːmɪˈnɑːti/; plural of Latin illuminatus, 'enlightened') is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name usually refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on 1 May 1776 in Bavaria, today part of Germany.

    The society's stated goals were to oppose superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life and abuses of state power. "The order of the day," they wrote in their general statutes, "is to put an end to the machinations of the purveyors of injustice, to control them without dominating them."[1]

    The Illuminati—along with Freemasonry and other secret societies—were outlawed through edict by Charles Theodore, Elector of Bavaria, with the encouragement of the Catholic Church, in 1784, 1785, 1787 and 1790.[2]

    During subsequent years, the group was generally vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed that the Illuminati continued underground and were responsible for the During subsequent years, the group was generally vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed that the Illuminati continued underground and were responsible for the French Revolution.
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    Tish would have us belief that conspiracy theorists fall under the...

    ...when nothing could be further from the truth as we can see in the citations I posted on the highly negative effects of and constant of lies told to us by our government and white collar crime which typifies those lies so easily covered up when in the government business.

    These guys want to corral the issue into discussing the narrow fringes groups (lizard people and aliens mars and what not) with an inferences applying it to the majority rather than the issues the majority complain about the same majority that recognizes when they are being lied to by these operatives.



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    The second largest group of people believe it was the government and this is an old poll that dates back when much of this society still got their information from MSM.

    I would love to see a modern poll now days, now that people have the ability to shape their own opinions from the internet.

    Thats why there is such a hard push to maintain power of opinion with censorship and disinfo fact checks to control and keep a lid on the information We The People get to analyze.

    Oh yeh!

    We now know through FOIA suits that Covid was a modified gain-of-function virus illegally created in the lab funded by Fauci/NIH.

    That should be headline news in MSM, good luck even finding it on the net! Its not easy.

    From the pie chart and Tish's claims, 15% of America are suffering from Schizotypal Personality Disorder, and as people leave the clutches of mass programming by MSM Im sure that number is growing exponentially.
     
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  4. Shy0ne

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    Thats 54% of the population did NOT agree with and sucker for the governments 'Conspiracy Theory' that Al Qaeda is responsible for 911, and now we know from this thread that peer reviewed psychologists think those people are all nuts! :cool:

    Btw Tish my official Schizotypal level measured between 0 - 100 is only 27%, which is 23% below the social norm on a bell curve graph normalized to 50%. Same thing goes with paranoia and the rest of those lovely personality disorders you are trying to hang around my neck. :p
     
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  5. Intrepid37

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    The Deep State and its Media Machine will never stop telling lies. Programming the populace to accept or be confused so that there is no possibility of the Deep State ever losing power - this has been the game for a very long time and will continue for as long as nothing comes along to end it.
     
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    Free speech faces a reckoning on college campuses

    Current events on Dependable MSNBC. Be nice to me, I read the news.
     
  7. MeAgain

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    The claim of pay offs to Twitter have been debunked by numerous sources.

    I don't know what you're getting at with the posting of the Stored communications act and the laptop.
     
  8. MeAgain

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    Okay let's add it up.
    You're not against the federal government.
    You realize the only legal rights you have in the United States are granted by the Constitution and the government.
    You don't believe the Supreme Court is the finial interpreter of the Bill of rights, which is part of the Constitution. Which leads me to ask who you think is?
    You agree that the Federal government can interact with public and private entities.
    You think anything may be posted on social media and apparently that Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, etc. have a right to vote in our elections. (Somehow I think you misspoke there)
    You support the federal government but think it is absolutely corrupt, dishonest, and greedy.
    You agree that this absolutely corrupt, dishonest, and greedy government can pass and enforce laws.
    You believe in anarchy, (we can do anything we want) yet then invoke a court system which is useless if we can do anything we want.
    And you want the federal government to be disbanded.

    To summarize.
    You support an absolutely corrupt, dishonest, and greedy federal government but feel that no government at all is better and would like to see the federal government disbanded, which, I assume would include the Constitution as that is what established the government. Am I correct?
     
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  9. MeAgain

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    And what and who exactly comprise this "Deep State". Names, governmental positions, verified lies please.
     
  10. MeAgain

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    So some students heckled this guy disrupting his talk in defiance of Stanford policy.

    In response Stanford suspended the dean of diversity, who was present, spoke at the talk, and failed to address the heckling.
    In addition Stanford will institute additional training for staff and students and review it's policy.
    So it appears, Stanford supports free speech and takes steps to ensure that free speech, when that right has been violated.
     
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    You are welcome to start a poll here!
     
  12. scratcho

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    Anyone that needs some anarchy should get themselves right on down to Haiti.:confused:
     
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  13. Shy0ne

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    I made no claim of a payoff, I clearly referenced contract which is not a payoff.

    Well the only citation that you showed me came from a source funded by Facebook which is a very unreliable source to debunk anything.

    To have something more neutral because as far as I'm concerned my citation Trump's yours because mine was discussed in committee on the senate floor.

    Absolutely not.
    You have a strange view of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights my rights aren't granted they're reserved! My rights don't come from the government and the only thing the government can grant is privileges, not right, if you want to get technical about it, which I do.
    That is correct, the final interpreter of the Bill of Rights is the people that made it not the administration.

    A jury can dismiss a case regardless of how the supreme Court feels about it.
    The people.
    Yes
    No you obviously missed the word "citizens".

    Personally I prefer to see posts from all around the world because I'm not entrenched in one political side or the other.
    I think all the government of the US is corrupt, look up ex attorney general judge Fine and see what they did to him when he blew the whistle.
    What do you mean by "can"?
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    False, that's more along the lines of Tish and you ;)
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    as you can see your take on me is not even in the same universe as reality.
     
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  14. MeAgain

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    You have seen a contract?
    If the contract isn't a payoff, so what?
    I thought about listing them all, but I have listed more than one already and I'm sure you can do your own research.
    So you only rely on information from a governmental entity that you consider to be corrupt?
    Yet, you call the federal government a kleptocracy that should be disbanded.
    Back to this. So exactly, what person(s) or agency granted you these rights? What is the difference between granted and reserved?
    I had thought the administration was made up of the people.
    There are no juries in Supreme Court cases.
    Again you seem to misunderstand how a representative democracy works. The Supreme Court justices are members of "the people" and are appointed to their posts by members of "the people" who were elected by "the people". So the justices are the representatives of the "the people".
    No, I saw that. Are you saying that people living in Russia, N. Korea, etc. aren't citizens of their own countries or are you saying that even though they aren't citizens of the U.S. they are free to disrupt our elections, especially foreign governments?
    And if they post lies, distortions, and out right propaganda intended to disrupt out elections we should just let that slide on by?
    So again the entire U.S. government is corrupt, but if something in a Senate hearing agrees with your ideas, then it's a reliable source of information?
    You state that the entire government is corrupt and a kleptocracy. CAN a corrupt kleptocracy pass and enforce laws? Are the laws of the U.S. legitimate since they come from, in your view, a totally corrupt kleptocracy? Simple question.

    Now as you feel the entire government is corrupt, what do you propose should be done about it?
    What conspiracies, to get back to the thread, contribute to this corruption? And...do you have any proof of these conspiracies or are they just theories?
     
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  15. Shy0ne

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    IIRC Haiti is some form of a republic?
     
  16. Shy0ne

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    Have you?
    It's an unlawful undertaking unless you consider the violation of our rights acceptable?
    but you're not addressing the ones that I list.

    I rely on it because that's what you rely on so far it's the only thing that you've accepted has legitimate so I use what you accept as legitimate.

    That said I expect you to consider it legitimate.
    Federal I said government et al not federal government.
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    No person or agency granted these rights they are reserved.
    Reserved I tell you what my rights are and if you agree with them then I let you have your Constitution. :cool:

    Granted you are the nanny that gives permission to you're a slaves.
    What makes you think I was talking about the supreme Court? LoL
    All this time I thought we were a republic!
    Not when they are on the bench when they're sitting on the bench they are administrators of law.
    That's a stretch. I'd love to see you come up with a citation for that one LOL
    I don't see how speech can disrupt an election do you have any citations on that one exactly how that can possibly occur?
    Well what's the matter don't we want to share the wealth of lies with others I mean it's okay if our politicians and people lie but it's not okay if other people lie? That's a very odd position to take.
    Well if you mean every person in the government well no that's ridiculous not every single person in government is corrupt I can't imagine why you'd even say such a thing?
    It's a reliable source for you since it's what you accept as official?
    Here we go again not every single person in the government is corrupt.
    Why not Al Capone passed plenty of laws in the territory he controlled and enforced them with guns (just like the government) why would you think that the government can't do the same for the territory they control? That seems self-evident to me.
    No law that violates the Bill of Rights or the Constitution is legitimate
    Very odd question actually almost like you're trying to trap me into saying something silly that's easily arguable.
    Here we go again with the entire government as if every person in the government was corrupted and no every person in the government is not corrupted.

    I don't propose I do anything about it I'm to old to give a damn, let the kids live with the monster that we created for them. Most people buy the facade at least until they're 50.
    According to you they're only theories and according to you the only conspiracy theories you want to talk about are the ones that are not proven to be conspiracies. Otherwise my all-time favorite well one of my all-time favorites is 911. That's an easy one to rip the government's story to shreds.
    I already posted a couple of suits on the docket I'm not sure what you need beyond that? If that don't work define proof.
     
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  17. MeAgain

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    I listed the law as it pertains to information requests to Twitter.
    There is no violation of our rights in regards to the Twitter request and I did address your concern. There is no violation of any law. You claim there is a "contract" I would like to see the contract that you are referring to.

    I accept as legitimate sources other than the government. I listed some of them.

    So you don't just consider the Federal government to be a corrupt kleptocracy, you consider all forms of government the federal, state, local, and school boards, et al. to be corrupt.
    Okay, you think that all government is corrupt, but not everyone in the government So the system, our system is corrupt. Our representative democracy, republic democracy? Whatever you want to call it?.
    But you don't want to disband the federal government. What about all the other forms of government?
    What is your solution?

    How exactly are rights reserved? By God?
    You are the one who decides your rights!! Does everybody get to decide what their rights are or just you?

    You said a "A jury can dismiss a case regardless of how the supreme Court feels about it." How exactly does that work? Please give me a case example.

    On form of a republic is a representative democracy.

    Administrators of law, even Supreme Court justices in the United States, are citizens. They represent all of us. Who do you think they represent?

    How can (free) speech interfere with an election?
    Did I say it's okay for the U.S. to lie?

    Did I say all governmental sources are reliable? For example, Jim Jordon is an idiot.

    Al Capone didn't pass any laws.

    Who decides what laws violate the constitution?

    I'm not going to get into 9/11 as that horse left the barn years ago. Nothing burger.

    Again you believe that every form of government in the U.S is corrupt, but not everyone in the government.
    You believe in conspiracy theories, but can name only one, 9/11, and that has been debunked so many times it makes my head spin.
    What other QAnon deep state conspiracy theories to you follow? Hillary drinking babies' blood and Planned Parenthood harvesting babies?

    And you think everyone can claim they have a right to anything they want?

    Enough. I'll respond to your future posts when I feel there is something of value that we can discuss.
     
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    Yes and nowhere does it show that the FBI has any authority to influence or affect the free speech.

    Again this is been discussed on the house floor where it is accurately described as a horrific violation of the Bill of Rights.
    I have seen no such evidence, got a citation?
    Um it's all the same government! :confused:
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    We don't have a representative democracy neither do we have a republic democracy.

    It's a good idea to first understand what kind of government we have before you engage your keyboard in my opinion.

    We have a confederation, and what that means is we have a constitutional federal republic.

    It's very difficult to understand why things are the way they are without understanding first and foremost what style of government we have.
    A confederation. I want to call it what it is not what MSM and disinformationalists call it.
    Nope
    Stated that broadly it's completely meaningless, care to try again?
    Kick my feet up and watch the freak show!
    Most often by contract.
    Do you understand what a reserve right is, all you have to do is go on Google and type it in.
    Of course!
    Yes they do.
    It's called jury nullification, read the jurors handbook, the unabridged edition.
    How many more times do I have to tell you it's a confederation.
    Don't you understand how the government operates when they officiating they are administrators of the law they represent the law not us. Or at least that's what they were intended to represent.
    Again false they represent the law not you not me not the guy next door.
    They represent themselves if they're a plaintiff or a defendant in a court case.
    It can't.
    Oh so this is about your disappointment that Russia leaked information that the US government was hiding from us behind their iron curtain?

    Seems more like part of the problem than part of the solution to me.

    It's one of the reasons I listen to shortwave radio and get the news from all around the world.
    You didn't condemn it in fact it appears you just advocated it with your comments on the Russian intervention with the election because they leaked some of the government's naughty naughties!
    .... And you're okay with these unreliable people making laws huh?
    Of course Capone passed laws, he had a territory and you either paid protection fees Iow (taxes) to Al Capone or you lost your protection. LoL. Same as the state only probably more ruthless.
    We the people made them so we the people decide them.

    Oh wait the democracy part just sort of got forgotten about or maybe it's because we're really a confederation?
    Again as far as I know there's only one form of government in the United States.
    I chose to only name one only one is required for the argument, I chose one of the two biggest crimes that happened in this century.
    Yes I know it's so sad when civilians have to debunk the government all the time.
    You just made those up right? I've never heard of them before?
    Anyone can claim anything.
    Except for the largest criminal attack against United States on United States grounds within our lifetime that's not willing to talk about because it's a Nothing Burger. :eek:
    So according to you there's nothing of value to discuss there!:eek::eek::eek:
     
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    I had to laugh, "Psychologists ask what can be done about the increasing tide of conspiracy theories".......

    Scientists accuse the public of incompetence on scientific matters such as vaccines and climate change.

    The mistakes of the lay public should not be taken as an excuse to overlook science’s own faults.

    Today’s science crisis also reveals how the combination of corruption, rage and new technology can mobilise major social change.

    Reconstructing science would require a broad democratic constituency, including humanists, technologists and citizen activists, as well as scientists, investigative journalists and whistleblowers.

    At the moment, however, creating a blueprint for such a reformation seems delusional: we live in an age of increasing fragmentation, not inclusion.

    To tackle the post-truth world, science must reform itself


    ......easy! People are getting smarter, we can follow up on these so called experts and form our own opinions.....therefore we dont need psychologists, we need someone to listen when we say to these people and the gov: STOP LYING TO US! :D

    Now how hard was that...psychologists?
     
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