Climate Change

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David Vanzant, Jan 12, 2023.

  1. Tishomingo

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    Yeah, right. When your bluff is called, you adopt a superior tone to conceal the fact that there was no There there.
     
  2. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    I have provided PLENTY of sources by now in all my arguments and you’re still acting like I have “no there there”…thanks for proving my point exactly.
     
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  3. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    Want to know where I first heard the idea that there’s a theory that FDR may have allowed Pearl Harbor to happen in order to boost the economy out of the Great Depression? My highschool History teacher. This would have been like 2005-ish.
     
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  4. MeAgain

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    What's going on is that, I believe, ChinaCat lives in a different world view than some of us.
    Not that different world views are necessarily bad.

    ChinaCat just distrusts the government, experts, facts, any established media outlets, and academia.
    I think he believes that they are all part of the same grand conspiracy of which these minor ones he keeps bring up are just pieces of the overall puzzle. The government, experts, facts, any established media outlets, and academia, in his view, are all parts of this grand conspiracy.

    I'm not quite sure what the grand conspiracy is but I think it has to do with something about enslaving the general population of the world, or at least of this country.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong China,
     
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  5. kinulpture

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    The grand conspiracy, if you will. Is quite simple. The reptilian aliens, are same as the beings known as demons.
    Doesn't particularly matter what anyones beliefs may be. This conspiracy is billions of yrs old. Much older than humanity, in it's present form.
     
  6. MeAgain

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    LOL! I forgot, Bush is an shape shifting alien reptilian.
     
  7. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    For starters, I don’t even identify as Conservative, for the record. But with that being said, even those on the Left can many times agree that there is a small elite few who hold an untold amount of power, correct?

    Usually more Left-leaning people will say it’s the “ultra-rich” or “Capitalists”, etc. Usually those on the Right say it’s “the Government” or “the Deep State”, etc.

    But what I think both sides miss too often is that these trails lead to the same elite few people at the top of the pyramid. My opinion anyway.

    And I don’t think this small group of people have humanity’s best interest at large.
     
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  8. scratcho

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    I can agree with that.:) Most with huge power in any capacity, seem to care more for themselves and those close to them or there are at least those complicit in their thinking with the power hungry and their self aggrandizement if not their actions---and not the general state of humanity.
     
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  9. Piney

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    Yes, I did read your attachment.

    As to the aforementioned fires in Maui, Yes following that too. Just to the west-of-me The Jersey Pine Barrens are subject to large fire risk.
    On Maui, wondering about those shuttered pineapple plantation with its dry irragation basins. Wondering if a functioning plantation would have limited fire damage to Lahaina. What caused plantations to close operations?

    There has to be a space in-between climate denial and climate alarmism.
     
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  10. scratcho

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    I am leftist for sure. In my "dreamworld"--the entirety of all humans on earth would agree that a benevolent form of socialism would be the way to run this little blue dot in space. The power hungry--the thieves--the murderers--the liars--the cheaters--the fools--would all see the error of their ways and capitalism with its reckless way of diminishing the fast disappearing resources would be gone and the true heroes would be those that worked creating food for all----------and reasonable shelter for all. -------see how fuckin' dumb I am??
     
  11. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    I don’t necessarily believe in the Reptilians, but sometimes I wonder if Jim Morrison was tapped into this idea. Maybe he was just tripping too much acid and saying a bunch of nonsense. But lately I wonder if he was trying to communicate something deeper.

    Read The Lords and The New Creatures sometime. When I first read it in 2011 I couldn’t really handle any of it. But revisiting it, I am gaining a new appreciation for his poetry in general. I can understand more why being a Poet, not a Rock Star, was his real aim.

    Was Jim Morrison aware of the Reptilians?

    "The Lords. Events take place beyond our knowledge
 or control. Our lives are lived for us. We can
 only try to enslave others. But gradually, special
 perceptions are being developed. The idea of the
 “Lords” is beginning to form in some minds. We
 should enlist them into bands of perceivers to
 tour the labyrinth during their mysterious nocturnal appearances. The Lords have secret entrances,
 and they know disguises. But they give themselves
 away in minor ways. Too much glint of light in
the eye. A wrong gesture. Too long and curious a
 glance.

    The Lords appease us with images. They give us
 books, concerts, galleries, shows, cinemas. Especially the cinemas. Through art they confuse
 us and blind us to our enslavement. Art adorns
 our prison walls, keeps us silent and diverted
 and indifferent."

    “I will show you strange people
    Haunted, beast-like, on the verge of evolution

    Fear The Lords, who are secret among us”

    -Jim Morrison
     
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  12. MeAgain

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    But what does this have to do with climate change conspiracies?
     
  13. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    Agenda 21, Agenda 2030, and the concept of a Global Totalitarian World Government need to first wipe out free enterprise and Climate Change is a perfect excuse to do that. You can’t do it all at once. It’s the “tip-toe” to total control. Just a slow, meticulous erosion of human Liberty until everyone collectively agrees that yes, we are a cancer to the planet, and yes, we should be controlled by a World Government (United Nations) in order to keep our horrendous cancer tamed.
     
  14. MeAgain

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    "The crystal ship is being filled
    A thousand girls, a thousand thrills
    A million ways to spend your time
    When we get back, I'll drop a line"
    - Jim Morrison​
    Was Jim Morrison aware of crystal ships?

    "Please believe me
    The river told me
    Very softly
    Want you to hold me, hou-hou-hou"
    - Jim Morrison​
    Was Jim Morrison aware of river deities?

    Wild child full of grace
    Savior of the human race
    Your cool face​
    Was Jim Morrison aware of the Savior of the human race?
     
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  15. MeAgain

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    That's what I said you believe in a vast conspiracy to enslave the human race.
     
  16. MeAgain

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    Now, to limit this to climate change, the conspiracy to fake climate change in order to enact a Global Totalitarian World Government would need to include (a partial list)

    The World Health Organization
    NASA
    American Association for the Advancement of Science
    American Chemical Society
    American Geophysical Union
    American Medical Association
    American Meteorological Society
    American Physical Society
    The Geological Society of America
    U.S. National Academy of Sciences
    U.S. Global Change Research Program
    Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
    National Geographic Society
    NOAH
    EPA
    UN
    Congress
    World Meteorological Organization
    Department of Agriculture
    U.S. Agency for International Development
    Smithsonian Institution
    National Science Foundation
    National Aeronautics and Space Administration
    Environmental Protection Agency
    Department of Transportation
    Department of State
    Department of the Interior
    Department of Health and Human Services
    Department of Energy
    Department of Defense
    Department of Commerce


    Here's another couple hundred
    Category:Climate change organizations

    Thousands upon thousands of experts and scientists...but what do they know?
    And that's just the climate side of world dominance.
     
  17. Wally Pitcher

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    I would never consider myself to be an knowledgable on climate change. The implications of relying solely on the will of god and the politics of the economy, are also not my bag. As a a biologist the deforestation of the planet and covering the ground with concrete, and poisoning the oceans is a real problem for me. We need to wake up and reserve an adequate portion of the planet toward producing oxygen or we are doomed.
     
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    ChinaCatSunflower002 at work:

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  19. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    You’re really gonna be petty and “source bro?” about Jim Morrison words? Jesus dude.

    Lyrics and his books of poetry are also not quite the same. The words he wrote in Lords and New Creatures are clearly actual thoughts and observations he was making about the world. Hardly even poetry for that matter.

    Morrison really did believe that Native American souls possessed him from a car accident he encountered on the highway as a boy by the way.

    But you really don’t have to critique and question EVERY single post of mine just for the sake of it. This is what I mean by that I’m not taking your cynical inquiries seriously. You’re literally trying to get all “please provide Scientific evidence” to my interpretation of Jim Morrison words. Is that really necessary?
     
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    We once were powerful enough, to defend ourselves against the darkforces. Something happened to knock us back into a stone age. Has happened more than once. We never did just rise from that only once. Once in awhile a disclosure or channeling will occur.
     

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