Climate Change

The problems with not understanding basic science. Sulfur dioxide emissions were restricted because they cause ACID RAIN….remember the huge issue of dying forests from acid rain? Of all the policies to combat global warming, increasing SO2 emissions doesn’t even pass the giggle test.

 

On the NJ Offshore wind project: Reprinted from The WSJ

Phil Murphy huffed and he puffed, and a giant wind boondoggle blew the New Jersey Governor down. That’s the story of another failed green-energy project, as the follies keep being exposed.

The renewable energy firm Ørsted last week backed out of two megaprojects along the Jersey shore that it started planning in 2019. With his eye on support from the climate lobby for a White House run, Mr. Murphy courted the developments, which were meant to provide electricity for hundreds of thousands of homes. The company says cost overruns have made them impossible, and it wrote off $4 billion for the first nine months of this year.

Mr. Murphy fumed in public, saying the cancellation casts doubt on Ørsted’s “credibility and competence.” The Danish firm blames its withdrawal on rising interest rates and component costs, but it has said little about what made the New Jersey project uniquely impractical. At least for now, the company is moving ahead with wind farms in New England and Maryland.

But it takes two to make a bad deal, and Mr. Murphy wants to shift blame for his poor due diligence on behalf of New Jersey ratepayers. The state prodded power company

PSEG
into a partnership with Ørsted, and PSEG bought a 25% stake in one of the offshore projects to prop up development. The utility sold its stake this year as cost overruns became critical.


Yet that was exactly when Mr. Murphy doubled down. He signed a bill in July to let Ørsted pocket federal tax credits it would earn from the wind farms, instead of using that money to reduce its electricity rates, as it promised to do in 2019. The change would have cost New Jersey residents up to $1 billion, but affordable energy was never the point. Like many progressive Governors today, Mr. Murphy was all in for the green bragging rights.

The New Jersey bust isn’t the only sign of wind industry woes. BP and Norwegian partner

Equinor
recently wrote-down a combined $840 million on New York state wind projects. “Offshore wind in the U.S. is fundamentally broken,” a BP clean energy executive told the press Wednesday. Developers often underestimate project costs so much that even a boatload of tax credits can’t make them economical.


The best result of Ørsted’s project failure would be for other states to re-examine their green follies. This is also something for voters to recall when politicians next try to sell their climate virtue.
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the Whale in NJ is also in danger from those who are exploring for off shore sand deposits. The off shore sand is mined and then used for beach replenishment by the US Army Corps of Engineers. Sonar mapping is used for this as well.

My Beef with the turbines is mostly economic inefficency. I am sure that those land based turbines in Oklahoma turn a profit because they are cheaper to site than something built in the ocean,

 

Many of the energy projects reflect the fact that many just want a magic machine to work for them. Some modern appliances are simply useless. & in some cases dangerous. Such as microwave ovens. Not just the obvious reason but they simply eliminate needed nutrients. & only erase a few mins of prep time.

 

Wind farms are about as dumb and gullible as AOC’s Green New Deal. Wake me up when we revamp every building in the country, remove airplanes, replace highways with trains, and are all eating bugs instead of meat. Sounds very realistic, cost efficient, and amazing also.

Just as an experiment I would love to go 24 hours without any Fossil Fuels being used and we can see what happens and how everyone collectively reacts.

 

Alho sadly the author threw in a tiny bit of pedo. The novel ecotopia is an interesting look @ modern green ways. Many folks still use the books as templates. Ive never heard anyone mention that part.
folks should be warned abt such. & then move on with the template. There are other study guides tho not as thorough. Such as rodale press. Tom brown, motherearth news, & many more.

 

Aint it sad how blimp development was setback? Similarly pedal power was setback several yrs earlier. An experimental bike crashed & i dont think the rider was even hurt. So international olympic commitee said only standard ones allowed. Pedal power suffered since. I even have a personal beef with kinetic sculpture folks. Over my suggestion these be an olympic event. Artistic reasons were cited. Kinetic craft were around long before em. These are pedal amphibious bike boats. & maybe not in all cases lived aboard are very comfy to sleep aboard. This alone would solve much. These races started in '75 @least the amphbs. & really only just a few folks sleep aboard their bikes. Even i only did it a few times. & i had to build from scratch. But ive slept on several small boats. Is easier mostly than on land. Think of hong kong harbor. Or richardson bay @ sausalito.

 

More on wind and Whales

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/art...ern_over_offshore_wind_and_whales_991171.html

 

Once again, you make no sense. Obviously, a shift from fossil fuels to renewables is not going to occur overnight, nor should it. And it is unlikely to involve the extreme scenarios you project. Eating bugs? Where did that come from? Wind turbines currently supply over 40% of Oklahoma's generated electricity. Seems to be working out.

 

It's good that scientists are looking at environmental consequences. Of course, climate change is also a significant environmental consequence, with effects on a wide number of species, including humans. When onshore wind farms were under consideration, the big concern was effects on birds and bats. As previously mentioned, we have wind farms here in Oklahoma. So far, the effects on birds and bats seem to be real but minimal.
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/do-wind-turbines-kill-birds
Wind farms are hardly the bird slayers they're made out to be. Here's why
Labs Are Scooping Up Animals Killed by Wind Turbines
Judging from the road kill I encounter, fossil fuel driven vehicles are tough on wildlife too, especially deer and armadillos. And I doubt that the emissions are good for any species. All forms of energy, including wind and solar, have negative environmental impacts. We can't avoid them, unless we want to embrace the Earth First slogan: "Back to the Pleistocene".

 

LOL that’s tiny. You really think we are gonna have endless amounts of wind propellers everywhere in the world?? LOL

 

Wind Farms are about as useful as a Wind Fart in the wind…

 

Dunno abt that. But like i said earlier, sometimes larger projects are really only extending the bad habits that got us here. I hope that makes sense. We are still mostly a throwaway society. So that probly wont change soon. Allotta energy is wasted uselessly. Such as helium which is now in short supply. Couldnt that have been used in blimps? & thats only iceburg tip. & several yrs ago a certain model electric car were all destroyed. Is a movie they killf the electric car. Also too was a contractors special dodge truck was discontinued. It could power a house. & it goes on.

 

I wonder if the terrain may also have something to do with it. Western Oklahoma, where the wind farms are, is flat, wind swept plain. I've been to Pennsylvania, and my impression is mostly hills. Wind provides over 10% of electricity in 16 states, and over 30% in Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, South Dakota, and North Dakota. The first three of those are pretty flat. Texas has over 150 wind farms which together had a total capacity of over 30,000 MW in 2020). That would make it the fifth producer in the world if it were a country. The nice thing about wind power is that it's exportable! And the technology is developing rapidly.
New Interactive Map Shows Big Potential for America’s Wind Energy Future
Wind Energy Potential - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
Wind accounted for one-third of all newly installed electrical generating capacity from 2006 to 2013.

 

For you naysayers that think you're funny: These folks --post 782-- been around since 1903.