Pride celebrations: Your thoughts?

Agreed.

We are now regressing at a tremendous rate, regarding LGBTQ rights; for all the progress we have made since gay marriage became legal some years ago, we are, with each passing day, losing more and more solid footing.

God help us all in 2024, if we end up with a homophobic President at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Personally, I see things getting even worse regarding gays, before any sort of positive glimmers begin to appear on the dark horizon of bigotry and intolerance.................

 

I have no patience with intolerance. Sexuality is complex, and my opinion regarding bisexuality is that most people are bisexual but most will not admit it.
Our power still is the voting booth.

 

I agree with you; look at how many married males find themselves strongly attracted to other men; many hide their urges as best they can, so as not to raise any suspicions.

They are, of course, terrified of thinking they might really be gay.

Personally, I think that this might be one of the reasons why even platonic m/m friendships are "suspect" nowadays; even on television (especially in commercials) many feature girlfriends enjoying each other's company, with no males present.

On the flip side, IF you do see a commercial with two male buds together, it is a given that their wives (or girlfriends) are with them, as though even showing two platonic male friends together is leaning towards "queer".

Strange, it seems that close female friendships are acceptable these days, but close male friendships are something that might be conceived as "gay".

I still smart from the insensitive and juvenile remarks of snide late-night comics, issued when "Brokeback Mountain" debuted years ago.

They had a lot of "fun", I recall, making fun of "that new gay cowboy movie".

Stupid and bigoted.

These days, IMHO, I truly believe close m/m friendships are foundering; for crying out loud, they don't even make "buddy" movies (or TV shows) anymore; if, today, a tv detective or police officer has a partner, it will be a female.

Like yourself, I have no patience with intolerance whatsoever; it is truly getting ugly and out of control.

I am so damn disgusted with all of the double-standards, intolerance, and ignorance..............

 

We have had political shifts before with a Supreme Court taking extreme right views but that will eventually swing to a more moderate Court eventually.
One fact is that states cracking down on transgender health care will curve back on the states as lack of medical knowledge and psychological health will be found extremely dangerous to such patients with an increase in suicide and decreased mental and physical health. This lack of medical knowledge will eventually surface as a factor which will eventually destroy that push to suspend medical care. It might take awhile but it will happen..

 

You are absolutely right-decades. And if a GOP Pres is elected in '24 it could be longer. The conservative Supreme Court feels now emboldened to continue. I don't see any stopping.

 

Pride Parades are so embarrassing. Thank goodness Straight people aren't as uninhibited and flamboyant, and can maintain a proper sense of dignity and decorum.

 

.......I would have no problem with Pride marches and celebrations if more "PRIDE"was exhibited.

IMHO, I think the Pride parades do nothing more than re-enforce far too many of the embarassing, demeaning stereotypes that straight bigots associate with the gay community.

I would think that there are many straight-acting gay men like myself who would agree with me.

Personally, I see no need to "flaunt" one's sexuality, especially in such a flamboyant, "in-your-face" manner.

Though I do not see the need for such parades, I DO feel that people SHOULD be able to march (and/or celebrate) BUT do so with DIGNITY, DECORUM, and PRIDE.

Straight bigots have more than enough ammo to use against us; we certainly do not need to further supply their ever-growing arsenals of hatred and intolerance..........

 

Haters are gonna hate even if you wear a charcoal three-piece pinstripe suit, conservative tie, and wear a bowler hat and carry an umbrella. As they've repeatedly demonstrated, they don't hate us for what we do; they hate us for who we are. Our very existence enrages them. I'm certainly not going to allow bigots to dictate the parameters of my life or constrain my expression of who I am.

 

This is also true; you are right about that they would hate gays and bisexuals no matter how they dressed or behaved.

Decent behavior and a conservative way of dressing certainly would not dampen the fires of hatred spewed by bigots; look at how many well-dressed, conservative gay males in the business community have been fired from their jobs. losing close friends, simply because of who they are.

As far as the armed forces......well, I've read of too many horror stories over the years, regarding gays in the military.

I recall reading of one account of two Navy men (aboard ship) who were found to be gay (during WW2) suffering unspeakable fates.

Hatred and iscrimination, indeed, knows no boundries........

 

It's Pride Month once again, time to revive this thread.

I'm a straight male who firmly believes in tolerance. I know gay people are born that way, it's not a choice. Live and let live, to each his own, whatever floats your boat, etc.

But on the other hand I find men dressed as women to be repulsive. That's how I feel.



When I see pictures like this I have to ask, "Where's the pride?" Hey, live your sexuality, to thine own self be true, but I wish it wasn't so "in my face". What you do in the privacy of your own home is fine with me, but show some decorum in public!

 

If you ask me - and no one did - according to our religions and morals, every day is Straight People Day... or it's supposed to be. If you're not celebrating your straightness in any way, that's not anyone's problem but yours - and stop hating on shit that you are incapable of understanding and then hating because you can and you clearly believe in something that isn't the whole truth of our existence. LGBTQ+ folks understand why PRIDE is important to celebrate so, really, if you want December to be Heterosexual Month, petition Congress to make it so or ask your local government to declare November Heterosexual Month so you can put your straightness on display... and like you do every day of your straight life!

And, no, I wouldn't be surprised given how I know how many of my fellow servicemen weren't as straight as they were supposed to be and, um, didn't have to leave the base dorms...

 

I'm not celebrating my straightness. I don't have a flag, and what the hell is a "straight flag" anyway? I'm not dressing the part, although I am wearing a pair of khaki shorts at the moment.

I just can't stand these cross-dressers, they look ridiculous and gross! And I can't stand Ru Paul, I wish he'd go away! There, I've vented and I can relax now.

 

So your tolerant but only if they still look "normal". What if it was a manish looking straight women that was wearing something gaudy and over the top, with big hair and loud makeup? Or a man done up in really good drag, where you just thought he was a gorgeous woman unless you caught sight of his Adams apple? Would either of those be repulsive to you? Not all men that dress in drag are gay, btw, not all are trans either. Some are fine identifying as men and some are even straight, they just like wearing "women's" clothes. Clothes are just clothes, man or woman, gay or straight, trans or cis, you should be able to wear whatever you want without being told that your shoving your lifestyle down someone else's throat.

Please don't go around telling people that you are tolerant, because you are far from it.

 

I'm okay with that, but I think buzz cuts on a woman are ugly.

Gross.

It seems you don't know what intolerance is. I'm old enough to remember when gay people were treated much worse, harassed or beaten up. I know of lesbians being beaten up by men because they "didn't think of them as women." As for men, if there was any lavender in your voice you were a target. I've always been against that shit but it doesn't mean I like gay people in general, I TOLERATE them!

 

First of all, gay people still face violence and harassment, did it used to be worse, sure, is it gone, definitely not.

Secondly, I found this quote that sums it up better than I can. For reference the person offering this description of tolerance, wasn't even talking about tolerating people at all, he was talking about tolerating vs not tolerating situations in your life.

"Long version: Your tolerance is your willingness to put up with something with which you do not necessarily like or agree. The greater your tolerance, the larger your capacity and longer your ability to endure continued subjection to that something without a reaction to change that something.

Short version: You put up with things you don’t enjoy for a long time and do nothing about it.

Notice there is one thing missing from both versions. Neither ends with, “and then you spend a lot of time complaining about it.” Tolerance means you permit the thing that upsets you. You allow it without any interference."





Your comments on this topic are you complaining about it and that is not tolerating it. It is still a form of interference. I'm not saying you don't have a right to your opinion even if I don't agree, I am just saying that you are not exhibiting tolerance by complaining about it.

 

So I should just keep it to myself or else I'm being intolerant? I just don't want to see drag queens everywhere! Do that shtick in a gay bar or a drag queen burlesque show but not in public! More decorum, less decor!

 

FUCK TOLERANCE!
I don't want to be "tolerant". I want to genuinely, transparently, and without reservation embrace you, all of you; just as you are, without reservation.
Happy Pride month, y'all.