Bi men and aging

KD23:

Just as we've talked about the legions of gay and bi men who, after salivating and drooling over BBC videos, where white guys are getting their butts rammed royally by a black guy with an 11" shaft, and then becoming infatuated with BBC (either in their mouth or buried between their butt cheeks), and thinking that:

A:

It aint gonna hurt.

B

All black men are hung like mules.

Once again, yet again, far too many take what is shown to them in m/m porn, and taking it as "reality"

Too many guys, I am sure, find out their "fantasy" is often light-years removed from "reality".

For sure, gullibility reigns...............

 

Variety being the spice of life is... a joke. Stranger danger and other fears take the potential of variety in these things and utterly trashes it. You cannot have variety when you have a static "relationship" with someone and I mean a sexual one, but it can be applicable to the traditional relationship sense. Me? I enjoyed the variety and diversity that every guy brings to the table and to the bed but with guys looking for their one and only Mr. Right FWB, that takes variety out of the equation, doesn't it?

I think it does. I point again to my protege who loves to tell me that he needs to be more diverse and experience more variety with the men and women he wants to have sex with. Except, when he wants pussy, he keeps going back to the same woman and hoping that she wants to get laid and, if she doesn't, he will pass up a whole slew of men who'd give anything to suck his dick and in favor of the FWB he's had for almost three years now. I ...tell him that just because you do different things with your FWB isn't variety nor is it diversity and that he does not get to complain about a lack of diversity if he's not going to find out how richly diverse things can really be.

It's not just the sex that provides variety and diversity - it's the people you can have sex with, the things that drives them and makes them who they are, their different outlook on things that can make having sex with them rather interesting but maybe he'll eventually figure it out and see that, once again, I was right about what I've said about this. He fantasizes about the people and things that I've already done things with and many, many times I point out to him that he could experience the great sexual diversity, too, if he wasn't being picky and lazy and being all about what he prefers while not giving a lot of thought and consideration to what he can do. But he's only been an active bisexual for less than ten years, so I do cut him a little slack... but not much.

 

Like my mom used to say, "A hard head makes a soft behind..." and that tends to mean that, yup, that 11" monster is going to hurt going it and it's probably going to hurt while it's in and it just might hurt some more when it's being pulled out, too.

 

Excellent comments and views, as is the norm.

You've gotta wonder if there are gay/bi guys who only seek BBC, and will pass up a chance to either suck on or get fucked by a WHITE 11" shaft, thinking that BBC is somehow more "exotic"?

It would indeed seem that, in some situations, a guy who says his sexual relationships are "diverse", but, in realty, they are quite "mainstream", and only "diverse" in his not-too-fertile imagination..........

 

My protege is a white guy... who is loath to have sex with white guys. Maybe it's just his dumb luck but every guy he's had as an FWB has been Black, a bottom, and one with a big dick; one isn't exactly an FWB but whenever the two of them get together, my protege winds up with the guy's big, fat dick in his ass even though he's seriously on the fence about being screwed and creamed. His current FWB is an older Black guy, apparently gay, mostly a bottom but one who's shown indications of wanting to top my protege - and the guy has a big dick, too.

I've point out to him that I happen to know that white guys have big dicks, too. But then we get into that which he prefers and just like damned near all bi guys I know of. My protege will tell me that he doesn't prefer BBC... but that's what he keeps getting involved with or BHC - Big Hispanic Cock - which is his second preference. He tells me that he knows that white guys have big dicks but cannot explain to me why he doesn't want to have sex with them but he's told me some eye-rolling crap about older Black men being mature and no-nonsense about their sexual needs and as long as they're bottoms. Every guy who has fucked him has been a guy with a BBC. Yet, he complains about a lack of variety and diversity.

He doesn't get that when you prefer something, you tend to pursue that which you prefer and to the exclusion of all else so when you prefer older, Black men who are bottoms and they happen to be packing 8" or more, you've eliminated all other men from consideration as a sexual partner, let alone an FWB. He loves to keep asking me what I prefer, and I keep telling him, "I prefer to have sex." Who I have it with has, since I was, oh, 15 or 16, depended on three things: Being old enough to consent to sex wherever we're to have sex; be healthy enough to have sex - that also means no diseases; don't be my idea of an asshole or a **** - this one can prove to be very difficult for a lot of men and women and if na any one of those "conditions" are not met, we are not having sex.

Otherwise, um, what do you wanna do? He's into the bear and cub thing; he seems to get turned on by really hairy guys even though he denies it - but asks me if I prefer them, which I don't - really hairy guys just freak me out but hasn't stopped me from having sex with someone wearing their own fur coat. My protege is non-diverse and quite mainstream with his preferences and doesn't seem to see the sense or reason in not having them locked in lead and because they are, he cannot be diverse. Again, he'll learn and I try to impress upon him that he's in the middle of learning things that I learned before I was a legal adult and everything I experienced since then just added to what I know about this and I think he forgets that I was doing what he's doing and then some... before he was born.

 

KD23:

Your protege, without a doubt, sounds like a real "hoot-and-a-half" for sure!

Myself, I never thought of race/color having anything to do with the size of a man's cock, the contours of his butt, or his amount of body hair.

To me, it is simly all genetics, and nothing more.

From reading your many insightful and QUITE educational responses, I would guess that it has be difficult for a black male to explain to potential partners that all black men are NOT hung like mules.

A COCK is a COCK, as far as I'm concerned, period.

And, again, race/color has NOTHING to do with it.

However, as you indeed know, there are some guys that refuse to separate fantasy from reality.......and that's pretty sad.....for all concerned..............

 

My protege has done extremely well in a relatively short period of time but, yeah, he can be hilarious at times but I see too many signs of him being... a mainstream bisexual which isn't going to allow him a lot of different experiences.

Is it difficult for me to explain to someone that we're all not hung like elephants? No, not really but back in the younger days, oh, boy, I had a lot of white guys asking me if it was true that our dongs were bigger and, um, that was my chance to show them my cock if they wanted to see it all nice and hard (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). I found it 'crazy' that both guys and gals believed this to be true across the board and getting to experience my dick seemed to satisfy their curiosity although I had some white partners who said that, yeah, I have a nice dick, but it doesn't hang down to my knees and as they were expecting.

And then I found out why there was so much interest about the size of our dicks. Or some guys would ask me what it's really like to have sex with a Black girl and... I didn't know how to answer the question because some were seriously amazing and some not so much but they'd heard that Black women are wild animals in bed and some even suck cock and the stereotypes began to show their faces and people tended to believe them rather than to seek the truth that gets hidden amongst the stereotypes.

I have never had a Black or Hispanic guy ask me how big my dick is; only whites and Orientals have asked because, of course, they've heard the rumors that we're super hung and super-duper studs and, well, I'm sure you've heard them as well. A lot of potential partners, both male and female, were "over the moon" to be able to get a big dick to play with but, at the same time, everyone was saying that it's not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean and, okay - which thing is the truth? Is bigger better or is it the skill in which the dick is used that matters the most? So, when asked, my answer would be, "No, not all of us have big dicks..."

Race shouldn't have anything to do with things, but it doesn't change the fact that it does. The early explanation for this was "opposites attract" but, um, hold on a moment - there's nothing really opposite about us because guys are guys, girls are girls and skin color or ethnicity shouldn't have a damned thing to do with it but it's kinda rare to come across someone who really understands this and isn't of a mind to be "mainstream" and be all jungle fever with visions of gigantic dicks running around in their head and, hopefully, in and out of their bodily orifices...

 

KD23:

Once again, more than enough "food for thought"; more like a "banquet"!

One of the most asinine observations I've heard over the years (regarding ethnic dick size) was that most Orientals were not at all impressive in the dick size department.......why?

The most ridiculous reason that was floated about was because that Orientals are highly intellectual (meaning oversized brains) that their cocks are small to "compensate" for their high "brain power"!

Now, TELL ME that isn't the HEIGHT of ignorance (not to mention sheer stupidity!)

I had mentioned this quite awhile back in another topic; I actually LAUGHED when I first heard of this one.....like, come on, now!

Though I am (as you know) a die-hard "ass man", I've seen more than my share of photos of horsehung nerds and geeks; average guys-next-door types, bears, etc, all with cocks of various lengths and girths, of all racial backgrounds.

And, yet again, it has NOTHING to do with one's race/ethnic background!

But, yeah.......try to convince some of these "fantasizers" of the HUGE difference between REAL and FANTASY.........(!!)

 

The why is that they had small dicks until an infusion of, um, let's say, non-Oriental genes were introduced to the gene pool. But obviously, their cocks work just like everyone else's cock, huh? And you're right - that's got to be the dumbest reason I've ever heard and just like we were told that Oriental women had a vagina shaped like a mouth and it had teeth. No, I am not joking about that so you can imagine my great surprise when I had sex with a Japanese-American girl and her pussy... looked just like other girls' pussies (but with nicer hair). I had mentioned this to her before we had sex, and she laughed until she cried, which made me feel stupid for even bringing it up but I'd heard this just the prior week because I'd seen her in school and though she was cute and very sexy and I was being told not to have sex with her because her pussy had teeth and was shaped like a mouth and it would bite my dick off and those telling me this were serious... because they were told this and made to believe it.

She came back with, "Is it true you all have big pricks?" and, well, no, we don't - and it was yet another lesson in stereotypes and how this kind of misinformation gets started and spread around and, worse, believed to be the truth. So, we decided to have sex to "expose the lies we'd been told." I mean, it sounded like a good reason at the time but the truth was we made each other very horny and did something about it... a few times.

Now, if you aren't squeamish, go searching for how guys have destroyed their dicks trying to make them bigger because they believed that bigger is better and believed that they had zero luck with the ladies because they weren't hung down to their ankles. I think that if some of the "bigger is better" faction sees such pictures, they might rethink their position given how this perception has driven men to destroy their dick and beyond repair.

 

.....now, to further continue the insanity, I've heard that Oriental women have no pubic hair(!!)

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Insanity NEVER ends....and it IS damn well ludricious!

Then, again, regarding "ethic" dick sizes; there was va page on the 'net some years back regarding the endowment of American Presidents.

Nope, Barack Obama was reportered as only being "average", while JFK and Gerald Ford were pretty well hung!

I've seen photoshopped images/gay erotic artwork online depicting Obama and, to the rounds of applause (and drooling!) of BBC lovers, he is ALWAYS hung like a horse! (well, don't ALL black men have HUGE cocks?)

From what I also read on that page, JFK and Gerald Ford, on the other hand (also LBJ) were pretty damn endowed!

Again, why all the fuss?

A cock is a COCK.......'nuff said......

 

Okay, famous dudes. Why would I care how much dick they have since it's not damned likely that I'm ever going to get to play with it? Because my younger self grew up sucking the dicks of guys, um, way older than I was, I quickly learned that size doesn't mean a whole lot; it's not only about how you can use what you have but as an up and coming cocksucker, it was all about being able to get enough of it in my mouth to suck it and make the guy shoot his stuff into my mouth or can I relax enough for him to at least get the head in my butt.

You get to find out how irrelevant size really is; I've had guys with stupidly big dicks, and they used it as a weapon more than an instrument of pleasure and when you grow into adulthood and run into a guy who really measured at 13" and you took it, yeah - size really doesn't mean a whole lot, does it? They're nice to look at and if you've had a few monster-sized dicks, yeah, you got some bragging rights. Otherwise... a cock is a cock.

 

Well said!

Agreed 100%!

 

Here's the thing: By having a preference for BBC, you eliminate a lot of men from consideration and all because they literally don't measure up and even when they have other redeeming qualities that would make them an ideal sex partner or even an FWB.

 

I agree totally.

Look at how much they might be missing with a FWB, simply because they simply think there is nothing than can top BBC.

If they are missing out on a lot of varied and diverse sexual pleasures with a FWB, simply because he does not meet their unrealistic "requirements", well, then they have only themselves to blame.

Amazing how the taste for BBC can quickly become an obscession, with totally unrealistic expectations......

 

Some experience big dicks and... it's just what the doctor ordered so it's not always an unrealistic expectation - but go ask someone why they prefer BBC and see if they can answer the question - and especially those who have not even touched another man's dick, let alone do anything else.

 

TMI

 

Strange that, with some men, their sexual desires start to become less and less intense (and frequent) as they age, while, with other men, it is just the opposite, and they just can't seem to get enough of it..................

 

What's strange about it?

 

I guess nothing really, but it IS interesting how some older guys are like "been there, done that", while others are looking to "explore new frontiers"..............

 

Nothing unusual about that. Because of my early start, I was BTDT by the time I was 45 and while there are always new frontiers to explore, they go into places that I'm not interested in. Now, some guys are aware of what's out there to experience but they put themselves in prison by playing by heteronormativity's rule unless they get lucky, they won't have a chance to get out of that prison until the relationship they locked themselves into turns into just two people living together and barely tolerating each other. Some guys get divorced and get to exploring the possibilities while others turn right around and lock themselves into another relationship that's not all that different from the first one: Playing by the rules gets you nowhere if you're trying to go somewhere.

Some do not realize, until they get older, that they could have availed themselves of what life really has to offer and now they're trying to play catch-up - while guys like me sit back and watch and wonder what took them so long to figure it out. You see, my goal was to not get old and be on my death bed and thinking that there was a lot of stuff that I hadn't done that I should have done. I didn't want to get old and be saddled with deep regret because I could have been there, done that and... I did nothing except make excuses as to why I didn't go there and do that. There are others like me who truly believe that you only live once and tomorrow is never promised to anyone so one should do all they can while they can and the sooner they start, the better... but it doesn't always work out for a lot of guys.

Some guys got started when I did and... they walked away from the possibilities to do the right thing and as we, as men, are told to do. Now they're finding that they can return to the party and pick up where they left off but only with some difficulties. And hate to say it but some guys let other people steal their joy they put themselves on lockdown because they don't want to get their feelings hurt again while entertaining fantasies that they could be indulging in... but they aren't because they're stuck in that past moment, and they've allowed their past to fuck up their present and future.

Is it interesting? I suppose; again, there's nothing unusual about this - we all don't develop the same way, nor do we learn the same things at the same time and rate of learning and opportunity is a circular kind of thing that comes around but if you're not in a position to grab it and take advantage of it, well.

We like to say, "better late than not at all" or "better late than never" and I suppose it works for those looking to explore what is to them new frontiers but to guys like me, it's just another Wednesday.