Porn: yes or no? A Choice at the Internet Service Provider & Cellular Company

I just don't want it to be part of my life! Can I choose that? The real answer is 'NO', and that's true for everyone. It's rigged to push you into an outlier category: "Did you reverse engineer your router so your kids aren't looking at adult content like I do???????" insert hanna-barabera era cartoon meme (Hanna-Barbera is a company that produced animated cartoons and movies, and is known for many of its popular characters and shows).

We have options, but we don't have a voice; not unless we want to speak geek.

The answer is to cram your foot down its throat.

 

There are a lot of good reasons to make it optional. One of those reasons is because so many and especially elders have questioned its role in our households.

For marriage? I'm pretty sure there is an Aura ring for that (it will know if you take it off or if your heart rate is high while you're online and email your wife).

For children? I'm almost 100% that shows the wrong things whether it's about the way we treat each other, or the way we should expect each other to look.

What about safety? Is that also important? Yes. And there are thematic problems when this is so present in our reality.

Social wellness is also important. Is this type of content 'anti-social'? Some will tell you it's not. Some will accuse your behavior of being anti-social or even 'unholy'.

What is it doing there then? Is it accessible at all? Did you choose it? I did not, but it's there.

There are a dozen reasons. I know young women who have been touched by this and it's painful. It's excruciating because it's difficult to get away from. The video and picture are still there...

Intimacy. Isn't that why people turn to this? Perhaps that's so, but I believe in a therapeutic reality that doesn't need to surrogate intimacy.

When we have each other, this is so totally irrelevant.

What makes it unfair is that we do not have each other.

 

Difficult question imo..............being a male with hormones.

It is more about age restriction ect

As a Interwebz oldie................some kids these days know better and more,most are just dumb................but they all grow up with this..........Society.

Not so much scared about the tech/interwebz..............more scared about "social" media and the influence it has on our youth/society/mainstream media/ect.... adds/easymoney/greed/.....*sigh*

Mzzls

 

I think about my values and how I understand myself as a responsible person or irresponsible.

I think about the calculus of acclimating to adult level, or the calculus behind realizing success or feeling affirmation that I did this adult thing without failures as I click on, or the calculus around Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs:



And when I am done contemplating the reality of so many who don't have their physiological needs met because they are completely out of money until their next paycheck but ran out of food two days ago and won't be paid for a week

or have been thrown out by every property-owning relative two times for their habit

and they have a tent under an overpass

And finally, I sit and remember that I care how responsible I am, and that for the truth to be true for my top level of the pyramid there I have to solve the equation in my head about accomplishment.

And you should never stop trying to achieve your accomplishments.

And sometimes I feel like I am doing a good job! And sometimes I know that I did something that does not contribute to that sense of accomplishment.

We deserve a choice. "Would you like porn with that?"

And it doesn't need to be a yes or no question in this country, but for some it may be, "Yes" or "No"?

 

And for my accomplishments it's a dilemma; it's hard to count myself accomplished and I'm always reminded that I made mistakes and that's what people remember, or that I'm not a good man, or that my accomplishments are forgotten.

But I haven't forgotten. And I remember. What I need to do is remind myself because scarcely a day goes by without the guy next to me reminding me that he didn't make those mistakes in his quest to exert justice on those who he deems unfit.

I remember though who I am despite the fight to appear adequate and adultlike while someone paints on the proverbial mustache...

And I know who I am. And I know what things I am not about. Even when it's hard to shake the idea that there's some merit to what is perceived by the public eye.

I have to remind myself of who I intend to be even if I'm already that person if someone is going to try to take it away.

No matter if it's someone I should be able to trust or not, I have to bite the hand that feeds without ruffling too many feathers and remember.

I have to literally remind myself of what means more to me, and who I am, and who I have accomplished to become.

Part of that is being able to tell you that there is a flaw in the system that has placed a default 'adult mature content' available at a whim on your most frequently used (besides TV) device, your computer.

We need a voice in that where for the last 30 years we haven't truly had one.

We need to be able to say for ourselves "I no longer want this in my life" and to then make that decision at the service provider with plenty of privacy etc.

I want that choice available to every American who prides themself on responsibility, every American who is raising their kids to be socially acceptable, and I want that choice to be part of the process when you will have that access.

You choose this. You can choose it or you can choose to live without it.

 

I guess I'm confused.

To me, an option would enable parents to have a more naturally positive effect, guidance, and morality by its very inertia.

To have good intentions for your kids is to have confidence in your interactions, both with them and with peers and other parents.

But everyone is mum.

This is a good idea!

 

When I think about how we actualize as adults, I think of our perception of ourselves as either responsible adults with our values intact, or something less and akin to hiding from the truth in denial and ignoring places our behavior has divergence from our stated values, responsibility, ethos, philosophy, etc.

We can either count ourselves as adults and accomplished and responsible and accountable to the system of values we purport to follow, or as having failed to achieve those.



This model is considered to hold true, and the highest level here has to do with accountability to our own values-oriented responsibility needs.

And it is in a state of erosion...

The odds are stacked completely against us because by default these are accessible!

The change that can happen is an offer at the service provider in favor of your voice in your own actualization as an adult!

"Do you want porn with that?"

Yes or no?

G or PG or What?

 

Its gross kids should be kept away from it but with the copy paste feature how could it be contained to pay sites I think that would be impossible.

 

I see room for class action.

Where we see a provisional tool for disadvantaged people as a work-around to understand love or transcend issues of attractiveness or weight or other issues affecting relations.

We also see a problem. Where is sin? Where is promiscuity? Where is the promise of life without this?

We have in the universal categories always had a censor preventing our values and morality as a human race and in each society from deteriorating.

I can go into great detail and criticize and blame if I want to, but the reality is much more simple.

There is censorship in music.

There is censorship in television.

There is censorship in radio.

There is censorship in movies.

There is censorship in school dress codes, and to some extent libraries.

And there is not censorship on the internet; there isn't even an option to employ censorship at the parental level.

And if you want to do that, you have to speak geek! And you are the odd man out. Not everyone is doing that, and my kids' friends have it on their phones.

 

Good luck finding a lawyer.

 

Porn Sites, Age Verification, and the Supreme Court
The Justices consider a Texas law telling websites to screen for minors.


Does the First Amendment mean internet porn sites can’t be required to verify that their users are 18 years or older? Tune in Wednesday, as the Supreme Court hears Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton.

Texas passed a law in 2023 saying that porn purveyors—technically, websites whose content is more than one-third “sexual material harmful to minors”—must start using “reasonable age verification methods.”

The roll call on this idea, in the state House and Senate combined, was 164-1. Other states have passed similar laws. “H.B. 1181 does not prevent adults from viewing pornography,” Texas tells the Justices in a brief. “It requires online pornographers to take commercially reasonable steps to ensure that their customers are not children.”

The lead challenger in the case is the Free Speech Coalition, an “adult entertainment” industry group, which says it agrees that protecting minors is a compelling state interest. It argues, however, that age verification is too great a burden on the First Amendment rights of adult Texans, forcing them “to incur severe privacy and security risks—which the statute leaves largely unaddressed—before they can access constitutionally protected speech.”

Texas cites Ginsberg v. New York (1968), in which the High Court upheld the conviction of a stationery store owner who “sold a 16-year-old boy two ‘girlie’ magazines,” in violation of a New York law that required the buyer to be 17. The Free Speech Coalition cites U.S. v. Playboy Entertainment (2000), in which the Court said that Congress had gone too far in trying to prevent the “imperfect scrambling” of adult cable-TV channels from leaking “discernible images” via “signal bleed.”

It isn’t 1968 or 2000 any more. “Through smartphones and other devices,” Texas says, “children today have instantaneous access to unlimited amounts of hardcore pornography.” According to a study cited in its brief, 53% of children have a smartphone by age 11. The Supreme Court has also held, including in Miller v. California (1973), that the First Amendment doesn’t protect “obscene” material. Texas argues that’s a legal problem for the petitioners here, “because much of the content on their websites is obscene even for adults.”

The Texas law was challenged on its face, before its enforcement, which means the briefs are full of speculation. The porn coalition says the law is overbroad: “A website that contains 65% core political speech and 35% sexually suggestive content would be 100% subject to H.B. 1181’s restrictions.” Texas isn’t so sure: “If otherwise covered websites were to rigidly segregate obscene material, H.B. 1181 presumably would not apply.”

The petitioners say that demanding an ID on the internet, unlike at the local stationery store, entails “severe risks,” such as hacking. Texas replies that some of these sites take credit cards, so hacks are already a hazard. The state says digital age verification is becoming commonplace, including for “millions of customers who use DraftKings for fantasy sports betting.” Sometimes such checks can be done via third-party apps that validate an ID or credit card, while keeping the details private.

The lopsided roll call in the Texas capitol suggests how millions of voting parents feel about this issue. When Louisiana enacted its age law, the tally in the state House and Senate was 130-1. In Virginia it was 134-2. Bills in Utah and Arkansas passed unanimously. Some porn sites have reacted by entirely blocking affected states. Then again, trying out age verification would undermine their litigation position that it’s impractical.

American adults are generally at liberty to do as they wish. But the state has an interest in protecting minors, and it can’t be that the internet renders this moot. New York in 1968 constitutionally told vendors of “girlie” magazines to screen out buyers under age 17. Several states now want such a rule for today’s online porn warehouses. That doesn’t offend High Court precedent or the First Amendment.

 

If the Gubment bans it, people will make much more at even worse quality that it is now.

 

There is a lot to say. I think the most important thing is choice.

When you choose a cable provider is there an automatic channel included that is typically viewed as inappropriate?

Well, websites aren't channels.

 

When I'm moving into a new neighborhood, I think what's on people's minds is what is my perspective on the matter; in particular if I'm a sex offender! Which I'm not.

 

We are unable to limit the "appearance" of guns in the U.S. due to the 2nd Amendment. People can open carry and in some states don't require a permit.
The 1st Amendment is just as strong.