I think the only thing that will keep her out of the dungeon is her father, big Dick...and he is one evil mother...
Moon Goddess-- " it can't be undone, so we need to move forward in this new reality and try to make allies out of enemies, band together, fight for our country with as many people as we can get on board with that notion, even those that made mistakes and helped create this mess. Your hate is no better than their hate, no matter how justified it seems. We need to be the United States of America again, emphasis on united. Like it or not, we are all in this together and we all have to fight back against tyranny and the usurpation of our country by unelected billionaires and their minions." I don't agree with everything you said, but you make more sense than 98% of the others on this site. There is a TON of hate here.
However, we see how peace and love works with tRump.....he'll just run all over that....these narcistic people just do not have a normal thought pattern and they think they all do...
It is normal to expect fiscal disipline from our elected representatives ? America does owe some forty billion to our lenders. Is this debt legitimate ? I dont hate anybody.
If this isn't proof of Trump's mental decline nothing is!! https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/how-trump-decided-gaza-strip-take-over/index.html
It depends on what you expect the result to be. I don't agree with many of Liz's policies or views but when the shit came down she showed courage, grit, honesty, and a deep respect for law and order. She stood her ground and will take the consequences. I'm not saying that standing up to Trump won't have consequences but until a sufficient number of Republics grow some balls and fight this man nothing will stop him. The Democrats can't do it on their own and the voting public are not supporting them. Liz choose the country over her career and her personal safety. In that light I think it went very well for Liz. Until more Republicans"...pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor", Trump will continue to wreck havoc.
And where does this hate originate? How many on this site are agaisnt gays? How many are convicted sexual predators? How many have committed 34 felonies? How many have mocked the disabled, called our war heroes losers, or called the free press the enemy of the people? Who has said that immigrates are eating cats and dogs, or said he wants to execute one of his top generals? Who told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by? Who told a white crowd they had good genes while he was attacking Somali refugees? Who called Mexican immigrants rapists? Who told Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib, who were all born in the U.S., to go back to the countries they came from? On and on. Moon Goddess this is what I mean when I say that there is no working together with Trump supporters. They support all of the above, as they support Trump. They are driven by emotions, not facts, logic, or science, and you can't have rational conversations or work with them. I have tried to exhaustion.
And how many elected officials OR EVEN members of the voting public have her level of commitment and/or honesty? (rhetorical question as the answer is NOT many)
I have to disagree with this, when faced with the lesser of two evils one picks their choice and just because they pick ONE does not mean they agree or support the ideas or policies in toto. apparently, the majority of the nation disagreed with where we were headed and now here we are. Now are there trump supplicants that would literally probably die for him yeah I think so (which is scary) but then there is the average guy who disagreed with the Biden/Harris plans and saw trump as the way out, that does not make them bad or evil or even stupid they just have a different idea so.
And what are you calling the lesser of two evils? Are you saying that Trump is less evil than Biden? Are you telling me Biden is evil? Please give me examples of how Biden is evil. Is he a felon? Sexual predator? Scam artist? Etc.? Now, assuming that both candidates are evil, to what degree are they evil? If Trump tells me he will lower the price of eggs, yet condones the execution of one of our top generals because he speaks out against him, and I vote for Trump becasue I agree that eggs cost too much and I think he will lower the price but I disagree that General Milley should be executed, what have I gained? I am condoning the execution of General Milley so I get cheaper eggs? Is that ethical, logical, smart, patriotic, humane? The majority of the voters, not necessarily the majority of the nation disagreed with where we were headed, and they saw Trump as the way out. Does that "make them bad or evil or even stupid"? Well look at what they support...in toto or not.
What I am calling the lesser was not the point. To me trump was the worse of two SHITTY choices, evil being a figure of speech, although trump could be evil BUT there are those that think biden was evil. biden was an ass and a liar and he was just barely smart enough to not get directly involved in his sons shady dealing, YOU will defend him and that's fine, he was a career politician who was senile as fuck at the end and abused the presidential pardoning power just like trump is. again my view is NOT relevant except for the fact that I disagree with you BUT agree with you that trump sucks BUT the majority of voters disagrees with US, I was merely presenting the "other side" which is not to say I am in agreement , trump is doing exactly what he said he would in the eyes of his supporters so and I should have clarified VOTERS however fact is IF you choose NOT to vote you kinda give up your right to complain about the results
@wrat1 and @MeAgain , Thank you both for your much more civil discourse, it's refreshing. It gives me hope.
Moon Goddess this is what I mean when I say that there is no working together with Trump supporters. They support all of the above, as they support Trump. They are driven by emotions, not facts, logic, or science, and you can't have rational conversations or work with them. I have tried to exhaustion.[/QUOTE] From this and other posts it sounds like you have a hatred of Trump supporters. As far as "They are driven by emotions, not facts, logic, or science, and you can't have rational conversations or work with them." I could say the same of you. "I have tried to exhaustion" ---You do know the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?
There are those who think Jesus H. Christ and Siddhartha Gautama were evil. You'll have to give me examples of how Biden was an ass, liar, and stupid, especially in comparison to Trump. You'll have to categorize Hunter's shady illegal dealings other than tax evasion, which he repaid, and lying about drug use on a gun form...both things done by thousands of people every day. Especially in contrast to Fred Trump, Jared Kushner, Eric Trump, Melania Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Lara Trump. As far as Biden's pardons, he pardoned his son who was being harassed and attacked for political reasons, I mean really, saying he didn't do drugs on a gun form? Please find me one other individual in the entire country that faced prison for that. Or how about the pardon for the Jan. 6 committee? Anthony Fauci? Gen. Milley? Please tell me what pardons you have issues with...again in contrast to Trump's freeing of 1,500 insurrectionists. The problem, as i see it, is that many people thought Biden was "evil" (I still can't figure out why) and Trump was also evil...so they didn't vote for what you consider the lesser of two evils, even though he wasn't even running for president...and here we are. Now please explain to me what Biden, or Harris did or would have done that compares to the mindless chaos Trump is now initiating.
He was an ass because he was senile and did not drop out sooner giving the democrats the ability to choose a proper candidate even Pelosi stated as such. He also threw his endorsement behind Harris BEFORE talking it over with the rest of the democrats so. He was a liar because he repeatedly said he was NOT going to pardon his son and then he did. Hunter is a drug addict , drug addicts do shady shit I am not going down deeper into any rabbit holes because it is not worth my time AND it is not going to "convince" or change your mind in anyway so there is no point. You are a diehard biden supporter and he could do no wrong in your eyes. I am glad that the majority of voters disagreed with you , I find it unfortunate that the alternative was trump
Thank you for illustrating my point. You claim I am a hateful individual. Then you go on to claim I never offer any facts, logic, or scientific data to back up my opinions, without offering any facts, logic, or scientific data of your own. If you wish to have a rational conversation please offer up something that we can discuss in reference to the election of Donald Trump.
Well, those all seem to be opinions. Okay. I never said Biden could do no wrong, everyone has flaws. I don't know what you mean in reference to the voters as Biden wasn't running for president.
As President Joe Biden was in decline but never lost touch with reality. Donald Trump is lost in the ozone.