Pride celebrations: Your thoughts?

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  1. GrayGuy57

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    KD23:

    Well, let's just say that, perhaps, your lifetime of experiences as a bi male who knows how to handle cock would have other males in your family leery to try to meet up to your stellar techniques.....:D

    (just a bit of humor, there!):)
     
  2. KDaddy23

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    Yeah, I might be a tough act to follow but I genuinely don't know other than having had sex with quite a few cousins back in the day and at a time where they could have called it experimenting and gave it up when they got older. All that aside, long ago and before those who'd one day form the LBG community, I had to learn how to be okay with my bisexuality; I had to learn how defend myself in this, i.e., no, I am not gay so stop asking me if I am or trying to gaslight me into being gay or other stupid assed social-based shit that, if nothing else, taught me how childishly afraid society was of sex and sexuality and, really, it's like a manager told me about a response I wrote to my performance review: "If you don't toot your own horn, no one else is going to..." and, yeah, I used to be able to toot my own horn and I used to play trumpet and, yeah, double entendre that he didn't know about but what he said that day not only got me a raise and a promotion but it also reminded me that if I don't stand up for myself - and celebrate my sexuality in any way that I can - no one else is going to.

    Every day is a PRIDE celebration for me, and I will never depend on the LGBTQ+ community to "have my back" and I don't need them to tell me that it's okay to be bi. Sure, I might go and take a good look at BDSM stuff and scratch my head over guys wearing dog masks and behaving like dogs... but I wouldn't take a child to such a thing and more so when there's a good chance that (a) I won't be able to explain it in terms he or she could understand and (b) um, they're not going to understand a word of it and (c) I have no idea what might happen with them because I exposed them to this aspect of things. I'm just glad that I'm not that cute little girl's parent and... life goes on.
     
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  3. GrayGuy57

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    Once again, PRIDE is indeed at the core of ANY man's bieing, regardless of his orientation.

    Do you live your life with DIGNITY?

    Are you a man who has PRIDE in his character and in his appearance towards others?

    As I had stated earlier, I have no more feeling of "pride" being a (celibate) gay man, than I would if I were a straight man.

    I AM quite proud of my honesty, my integrity, my sense of decency, and my compassion towards others.

    It is that kind of pride that truly MAKES the man he IS...........


     
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  5. GrayGuy57

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    Regardless of orientation, "PRIDE" comes from WITHIN.

    It all boils down to this:

    If a man has NO RESPECT for himself, then HOW can OTHERS have respect for him?

    Think about it.................
     
  6. GrayGuy57

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    Well, it's that time of year again.........

    Pride parades, Pride celebrations, etc. etc., with media coverage overkill, showcasing all facets of the demeaning, ultra-flamboyant, ultra "up-in-your-face" displays that not only re-enforce every demeaning gay stereotype there is, but also, makes straight-acting gay men like myself cringe with embarrasment.

    Thank God I avoid watching any and all news coverage of these parades and celebrations during Pride Month; I have no problem whatsoever with people "going public" with their sexuality, as long as it's done with dignity and TRUE pride.

    Myself, I stay as far out of the spotlight as possible; I see no reason at all to sacrifice my masculinity simply because I am gay.

    Oh, well, to each his own, I guess............
     
  7. thepapasmurph

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    PRIDE month. The month where we get to hear “why must they shove it in our faces?!?” Why do THEY get a month? What about veterans, or supposedly, some other acceptable group. Or how come there isn't "Straight Pride" month.
    So let me list some possible reasons for that…
    ** because just YESTERDAY, the Lt Governor of Indiana posted a tweet about how awful gays were with a link to an article entitled “The Rainbow Beast is Coming for Your Children” this from an elected state official.
    ** Because millions of people still view my partner and I as ‘an abomination’
    ** Because my partner and I are careful to hold hands in public or show any type of non-sexual affection in public, yet any straight couple can be seen anytime, anywhere doing the same thing with no concern or fall-out.
    ** Because I hid and denied who I was for years because I didn’t want to be viewed as dirty or perverted or diseased or a predator. Those societal attitudes are largely unchanged.

    Pride is such a dirty word in the Christian circles I' was a part of. I've struggled with that word, honestly. I can't say I'm personally proud that I'm gay. What i am proud of is any individual who has the audacity to buck a system that puts any other person or groups of people down as lesser than themselves. Proud to stand among those who have been put down, marginalized and discriminated against, picked on, bullied or worse just because they are created differently by our divine author of life. I'm proud of the friends who are allies and members of a community that supports me and doesn't judge me. I'm not proud of the pain I've caused for the people I love who struggled as I found the courage to break out of the closet. That's a hard one to let go of. We spent years attempting to conform and we begged God to take the gay away. We felt like a mismatched shape of a puzzle that didn't fit. That's a horrible way to live. Holding our breath for fear of being found out, for what would happen if we were exposed. But we found courage within ourselves to face ourselves and then stand strong as others heard the truth. I doubt the straight community can ever understand what that's like. I've often equated it to being a light skinned black person in a room of white people. Hearing off color remarks or slurs, or jokes said by people who would claim they are not racist. Good people, really. Just ignorant in some ways. So I approach Pride as a time to rally, to grow stronger in our resolve to be true to ourselves and to be proud of our courage and fortitude in a time when we continue to face prejudice and misunderstanding for who we are.

    Pride is the opposite of shame. We should not be ashamed of who we are... We should not face ridicule or jokes or discrimination because of who we are.
    Why do we need celebrations? To encourage and uplift each other, to celebrate our survival. Why is any celebration held? To commemorate, to educate, to proclaim, to come together...
     
  8. newo

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    With Trump back in office I have to say good luck to all the LGBTQ marchers, whether in a parade or a protest. You're going to need it. I hope we don't see an incident like the Stonewall Inn, except out on the street stretching over a couple blocks!
     
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  9. thepapasmurph

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    I'm going to DC this coming weekend for the World Pride Celebration... to say the least, this is out of my comfort zone. I am nervous. I hope it will be a good experience. My friends say it is our "Woodstock", but I also remember Woodstock was somewhat of a disaster zone...so hmmm... That reference does not comfort me much. I'm a small town boy, grew up on a farm in northern New York State - what am I doing? I guess I got caught up in the moments of discussion and decided to go, committing money I should probably save for other more important things... but it's done, it's paid for up front. I've seen reports of U-Haul trucks unloading masked men in Kansas City and another mid-west area - I've read reports of hate groups on the rise. Will this be a safe, fun, exciting time? I hope so. I hope I come back to my quiet life in my mid-sized city next week and report to you that it was a worthwhile trip.
     
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    could this be why?
     

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  11. GrayGuy57

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    Papa:

    May your "excursion" to DC be both ENJOYABLE and, most of all, SAFE!

    We indeed look forward to hearing of your experience when you return......have fun and STAY SAFE, my friend!:)
     
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    If they want to celebrate they should !! It's much more reasonable than a 9 million dollar parade for Flag Day
     
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  13. newo

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    With Woodstock, all was well that ended well. Let it be your Woodstock :) and not your Altamont :(.
     
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    Pretty much this. Fundamentally we shouldn't need Pride Month, Parades, etc. You're a dude that likes dudes. Big deal.
    We've come a long way. We could barely imply homosexuality several decades ago. But we have a way to go. Shit, racism was on the run until the orange turd reared his ugly brain salad head and we have to deal with that again.
    I guess we can debate the proper nature of Pride Parades. Do we need so many rainbows, drag queens and guys in chaps? Maybe we do, and maybe we don't.
    On one hand, I think they need to have a rather political nature, to state we assert the right first of all to fucking exist, and to live our lives according to our preferences uninhibited by what government or religion mandates of our personal intimate lives. Specific gender shouldn't matter at all. All rights should apply. And if I wanna hold hands in public with another dude and some ninny has a problem with it, that's 100% on the ninny. So I think such a parade should reflect something like a protest, an attempt to take back what's ours from society.
    On the other hand, I think it should also be a celebration and a reflection of the fun bunch we are. It shouldn't all be serious & business. Maybe there's some space for the Village People after the Daughters of Sappho carrying signs saying "Down with Homophoby!"
     
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    I am pretty un-flambuoyant myself - I think my style channels my mother - so a lot of the glittery, rainbow-y, drag-queen stuff is pretty over-the-top for my taste. But as long as oppression exists, Pride is needed. And in a time when the oppression is over-the-top, Pride needs to be over-the-top, too. If the politicians are going to shove their hate in our faces, then we need to shove back and be just as in-your-face, maybe more so. They aren't going to give us the right to exist, so we have to take it by any means necessary.

    Pride is the opposite of shame. Being trans is not a source of pride; being a lesbian is not a source of pride. Those are just things that I am, not things I have done and could feel proud about. But just as those categories are not sources of pride in and of themselves, neither are they sources of shame, despite what those right-wingers want people to believe. So I resist their shame with my pride.

    What I have done that is a source of pride is to dig deep and discover who I really am. That was hard work, and took me over 60 years to accomplish. Damn right I am proud of that! I will broadcast my pride and my unashamed-ness in opposition to the oppression we are all experiencing right now. This year, I am angry. I will join the glittery, rainbow-y drag queens and the leather guys, and the dykes, because our differences are just style. Our similarities are in resisting oppression.

    Remember that the first Pride parade was a riot.
     
  16. KDaddy23

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    It's a fucking shame that we keep letting archaic Old Testament dogma (a) get included in political bullshit and (b) get everyone thinking or feeling that since they're not heterosexual, they don't have a right to exist... and how fucking idiotic is this notion? Where do they get off saying who has the right to exist? Where do they get off trying to tell people that they can't be the kind of person they want to be? Religion and politics can't stop prejudice, bigotry, and homophobia - but we have a government that now supports being a way that I thought we grew out of but, apparently not.

    So, it begs the question of whether or not I want to go to a Pride celebration and should I be worried about the haters that are sure to be there as well? I have no plans on going but I also know that if I did, I wouldn't be worried about the haters (they should be worried about me) because if I'm there, I have better things to do than to pay attention to their ignorance and lack of proper home training. They can tell me that I can't be bisexual... and it won't change a damned thing because it cannot change anything.
     
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    It makes me wanna get gangbanged by a football team in a tutu and filmed for the whole world to see, especially for the most sanctimonious of the homophobes...just to prove a point! Go Bills!
     
  18. KDaddy23

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    You know? And go Dolphins! Why not rub their own ignorance in their faces? See, the haters - again - believe in that Old Testament shit that still can't stand up to life's reality but they can't see this because for them to see it, they have to accept that everything they know is wrong. And while the Bills are gangbanging soulpoker, these poor deluded people should step up and feed soulpoker their dicks so they can find out some stuff that we already knew...
     
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    Though I've posted this sickening news in my other topic.......

    Gay rights have taken YET ANOTHER hit, courtesy of "MAGA".........

    Just heard on the news that the Navy was ordered to change the name of the USNS Harvey Milk, the ship named for the illustrious gay rights activist.

    Shit, doesn't the HATRED and BIGOTRY ever end??

    See:

    USNS Harvey Milk - Wikipedia

    Harvey Milk - Wikipedia


     
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    Sad.

    Sickening.

    Disgusting.

    Hateful.

    A fucking travesty.......a mockery of what America is SUPPOSED to stand for.............and these BIGOTS get away with MURDER and NO ONE stops them!

    Where is the fucking bottom????

     

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