how do you create trubreeds from hybrids ?

Herewegoagain,L.O.L.

No really,
I coulda swore it was someone fro the old site who reccomended i use a backwards hermi in my breeding program. L.O.L..
but nevermind all that- I only planted third gen seeds, which were from seperated and selved (or crossed by wind & Bees)hermies, which is why i got the backwards hermie to begin with....

and it must have been me who misunderstood, maybe if someone would have said a "selved backward hermie" but dont use the hermie pollen on a female or your through.becauser that must be the case. It has to be a selved backwards hermie that produces male/70% Female seeds.
{ IMPORTANT CORRECTION: after furthur ponderings, it was obvious what mistake i made- I had three plants from past developments at the time- but from plants that hermied out away from the rest .
I got the backwards hermie from those seeds, and the columbian pheno also . i crossed the two together ,a random hermie and a backwards one
SO NOW I know which seeds will have this trait- just two lines out of many developments ,the columbian and the christmas tree from this gen. has hermie traits locked in. THe crosses with normal females I did should still enable me to test the theory of using a backwards hermie}
TWAS not mis-information ,but misuse of information thAT GOT ME! glad we talked about it- I might not have got it figured out right otherwise.

But it was interesting experimentation,I Have no regrets, I just have a hard time dealing with hermie outbreaks. Im over it and found two ways around it. now that my growroom is right! I'LL BUST {WIsh the caps would quit sticking- she spilled coffe on this $%^& IT}
out the real seeds, which I CAN use the males from to breed with................
and it seemms i may have outcrossed, or close to outcrossed the trait.
hard to tell until this grow is over..
but yeah most of my new seeds will have to be tested and two pheno's will have to be destroyed >the colubian and christmas tree- but I planned to use the first gen up and regenerate this year anyways.
Right now im working on stinky's offspring- which i shotgun bred a male stinky to the whole lot- afghani=thai kush ect.
interesting varieties there im sure- it gives me something to do.for the next few years. L.O.L. if this wave doesnt hermie.L>O.l. but, None of my stinkies did.
it has taken months to figure out what i did the last 10 years or so- but now that I got it straight, i'll go forward with the past. Im actually beginning to read clarke- and actually understand what he is saying- not just absorbing it on another level anymore bro.
be happy..
dont worry
the hermie trait will be destroyed.
Without losing a decade of work my friend.
tiedye

 

Im also realizing the thai cross may or may not work- it is the only cross outside the genotype. the kush and afghani have relations in their background with my strain.......
cousins within the same genotype, so to speak.
so the law of recombination will not work so heavily in my favor on that cross.

 

Today i weeded
out 7 undesireable plants from 47
24 femalesss
23 malesss
7 males destroyed
I figure that to be about 8% of the population
im looking for the lumbo and runt phenos, i'll have to watch the christmas tree pheno close- and the lumbo- i deem them likeliest to hermie...
i may have to start over but i doubt it very seriously.

 

If your dealing with those thai's,look out as I had both highland and lowland from that stock and both hermed(synonomous trait with thai)!Ya may wanna eleviate them if so!The lowland had the typical pinesol taste that most people except ole heads like our selves have ever experienced as well as the elongated loose stringy buds that were all to familar with the legendary thai sticks pevelant in th late 70's and early eightys!Great creeper sedative high tho!

 

YEAH IM SMOKIN up
the last half oz or so of the thai now. All the old strains got discontinued except the mutant. MY thai however did not hermie, and was crossed with stinky ,but who knows if i'll ever bother with those seeds. too long of a bud time, and too stringy.
the mutant blows the thai away anyways.
im selecting stinky for fast budding phenos, the thai would make it worse.
Besides,Im looking for more of an heirloom thai- like gold or chocolate thai.

 

O.K> i been buried in robert clarke's marijuana botany for days it seems. I have a simple answer to this project.
If i find a special pheno- say one that smell & tastes like pineapple, while the rest smell & tatste different. I need to find a male, {tricky part} that exhibits the same smell as my special one. Most of this can be done by rubbing the stems. I find the leaf stems have a strong smell on older leaves.
stinky had a distinct smell and flavor, smelled like a dead dog hashy chocolate bar in flower. STINKY. but the cured product was like a nice cool hawaiian punch flavor .
I have a male picked out, and a female or two with the same smell to them.
these I will have to breed together- clone the girls, backcross the offspring 3 times to cube. It is then a truebreeding strain. But each backcross will have to be from the male offspring, to the female i have chosen now for cloning this part of my current work.

but there are a lot of interesting phenos in this f2 variety- they will get open pollenated together , but with a bottle mixture. Seperate clones will be seperately pollenated. Im collecting pollen in veg mode, and scrubbing out the room and vents when the pollen has been collected.I only need to dust each lower branch of each plant with a little bit of the mixed pollen collected.these can then be to bertha their great grandma, to truebreed that version.
Im going to number them 1-20 in the order they bud out at.both male and female. or maybe just number the first ten to bud out radically.The fastest ones.
it is a lot of work you are right there, but im sure it will pay off in the end. Hard work always does.

 

What I really want to know is,
how does my new signature look?????

 

wait a minute. I only had three plants from my developments of the past ,grow last year.
they were all 3 from random hermies.
the backwards hermie was one of them.
I bred it to the other hermie- and that is where I $%#@ up. that is why the columbian indica phenos went hermie- they were from a hermie and a backwards hermie cross.
So i can go back to last years seeds, and eliminate all the christmas tree and columbian hashplants. but ANY OF THE HYBRIDS from the bagseed will not have this hermie trait locked in. the hermie outbreak was from the columbian seeds and mother clone. the mother hermied and so did the offspring.
because i pollenated a backwards hermie to a random one. Therby locking in the trait in those two works.

I actually learned something here,and now i know not to use any 2 gen randoms, a random is only useful to make one generation of seeds, all female seeds. the second generation will cause trouble everywhere it goes.

Good thing i got backups from 1999 eh! the ones that are first gen. femminised and 3 gen columbianxhashplant. the never hermied version that is.
might get another screamin male!
L.O.L.

IM NOT AS THINK AS YOU STONED I AM!!
TIEDYE

 

hey im gonna pull my old developments out next cycle, mqaybe i'll get another backwards hermie! this time i'll outcross it though. I will not use it on the random's decendants like before! l.o.l.
but also these developments can cure a couple months while i renew the old generations. and i can skip from grandparents to decendants each cycle, backcrossing all the way! keeping special clones on veg along the way!

 

Disaster struck
what appears to be powdery mildew has infected three plants. the males were removed-most breeding will be aborted ..two selected males were kept for now, but The open pollenation is canceled . the infected plants were removed and sprayed with soapy water- showing hundreds of tiny grey dots underneath the leaves where affected.
tomorrow a sunlight inspection will reveal more im sure.
the humidifier will be turned off at night now- and im cranking the cold air back up at night too.
20 females and 2 males made it through this first round. Hope thats all.
tiedye