Psycological for women to enjoy same sex but not men?

I have a topic I have wanted to bring up here for a long time.

I find it understandable for two women to enjoy sexual encounters
with each other when not homosexual.

BUT I don't find it understandable for two men to be able to enjoy sexual
encounters with each other if they are not homosexual.

This is what I find understandable in my head.
Even though this is the view in my head, I can't fully understand why.
It doesn't seem logical from an objective stand point.

Could it be that women and men sexuality are not polar opposites, but
more that women are like nuetrons and men are like electrons or protons?

Obviously I wonder what the media has and society has influenced.

Could the women here tell me if they think it is gross to enjoy sexual encounters with other women?
I am male and don't find that appealing with a man at all.

Also if you are a man and would enjoy encounters with men, you should say so too because that should be the same thing on our side.

Thank You.

 

I think the idea of two straight women together is not so much "psychological" as it is "pornological."

 

It's called bisexuality.

I do think that society has influenced how acceptable bisexuality is. There's still a lot of unacceptance of men being interested in men and still letting them be not a flaming person, but chicks can dig other chicks and it's perceived as hot or attractive.

 

Everyone's a little gay Maybe women are less stigmatised when they admit it...

 

Well, it's not that I particularly think it's "gross" for two women to share a sexual encounter, but, it's not something I myself would do. For some crazy reason, I have more of a problem with two women kissing one another, I'm talking all-out kissing, tongues in mouths. That bothers me much more than the thought of actual sex!

As far as men go, well, it doesn't bother me either if two men want to get it on. Again, the kissing is bothersome, but that's probably a kind of silly mind set.

 

I think men/men or women/women action is fine. It's whatever makes you happy.
In the end I think that people over react to people who are gay because they are different. WHO CARES!!!!! If you don't like it then don't join in the fun, but don't judge people just because they choose to sleep with someone of the same gender.
Like I said, if it makes you happy then who cares what people think; go for it!

 

I see the point that non-Gay Men are frowned upon for any kind of sexual intimacy whereas non-Lesbian Women can kiss & cuddle & even sleep in the same bed,& it is not frowned upon.



I think our culture promotes 'Masculinity' as being 'Macho'.

If non-Gay Men start kissing & cuddling then it seems as though they are not proper men.


Nonetheless Sportsmen on the same team: - kiss & cuddle on the playing field ;- then share the same bath & shower afterwards.Nobody thinks this as being odd.

'Laurel & Hardy' shared the same bed together , & no-one holds them up as 'Gay Icons'.

 

I dont see it as a man or woman .. I see it as a soul to a soul .. but chemistry and attraction ...figure in somehow ...as for right or wrong .. cant say .. I dont think there is a right or wrong ... personally when younger I was curiouse about woman in a sexual way .. mmm but I dont have that urge anymore to see what its like ... etc .. I have a very fufilling life .. thankful. I cant really say if I would change .. when I am in love I have blinders and need for nothing else .. ? ..........

 

I read a Time magazine estimate based on a poll of thousands of Americans which stated that 12-17% of men and 7-12% of women are Homosexual or Bisexual. This seems very unlikely on the surface, since so many more women are open about their bisexuality. However, American society (at least around here in the NYC area) seems to find it far more culturally acceptable to be a gay/bi woman than a man. Naturally, and forunately for gay women, this causes far more ladies to be open about their sexual preferences than men. Unfortunately, this causes many men to stay in the closet, and it also allows woman with psychological issues to exploit themselves and other women, regardless of their sexuality, for the enjoyment of equally depraved men.


I also wanted to address the notion that there are varying degrees of being gay/bi (i.e. 'everyone is a little gay' or 'I am bi but I prefer men/women' etc.). This theory is horseshit and I will prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. I can think of 8 different forms of human sexuality off the top of my head; Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual, Asexual, Pedosexual, Bestial, Incestual and simply Sexual, or arousal simply caused by the state of being alive and finding nearly everything to be arousing. If you say that everyone is a little gay, then you would have to say that everyone is slightly attracted to children, animals, inanimate objects and the like. If you can say with certainty that not everyone is attracted (even remotely) to one of these examples, than you must also say with equal certainty that at least some people are not gay, even slightly. I am an example of a person who is Heterosexual, and I have no attraction to anyone/anything that is not an adult woman.

Personally, I want to explain how I came to my above theory and conclusion on sexuality. I have never been a homophobe, in fact I have a bisexual male friend (he's the typical closet jock, but everyone knows his 'secret'). However, when I encountered gay porn on the internet either accidently or from pop ups it made me uncomfortable. I didn't want anyone to think I was gay, especially myself! During puberty I wondered how I could find transexuals arousing. I wasn't attracted to men, yet if I didn't know the difference between a tran and a woman I could be attracted to both; how is this possible? How could I identify between an attractive and unattractive man if I wasn't gay?

The answer came to me once I began working on understanding and improving myself as a person. If I start jerking off, but I don't fantasize about anything or anyone, I still get pleasure from the act of masturbation regardless of the absence of 'inspiration', for lack of a better word. When I wake up and I have a hard on, it feels good to stoke my dick. Sorry to be so graphic but it helps to emphasize my point, which is this; NO MATTER WHAT CATEGORY OF SEXUALITY YOU FALL UNDER, EVERYONE IS A SEXUAL BEING. I can identify an attractive man, child, family member etc. not because I find them sexually attractive but simply because I am a sexual being. If I were blindfolded and a man gave me head I would enjoy it just as much as if a woman had done it (of course that negates the variable of how orally proficent the man/woman is heehehehe). If society was socially accepting of bisexual men as it is about bisexual women, you would see equal numbers of bi men and women on television and in everyday life. In fact, if gay sexuality was accepted openly and there was no stigma attached, everyone would fuck whomever they could, because everyone enjoys sex. If you can't get laid, you masterbate. In an open society, if a straight man couldn't fuck a girl, he'd fuck a guy while thinking of girls.

That's all for today's lecture, I feel the soap box begining to crack beneath my feet...

 

Yeah!!!

 

Ok, slight, let me see if i got this, uh...straight (sorry. couldn't resist): if everyone is a little gay, that means everyone wants to fuck children, goats, and boxes of cereal?
that is to say, your line of reasoning is that if everyone has a few gay thoughts, that means that everyone must also have thoughts about screwing children, animals and objects.
but this isn't true in YOUR case, because you aren't GAY, so you only have sexual thoughts about women. no cereal boxes, no other men, nothing.
however, you then say, everyone is a sexual being, and if society didn't get in the way, we'd all just be screwing one another and having a good time. therefore, if it were more socially acceptable, you'd fuck another man.

 

He's a prime example why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to read Queer Theory.

 

And he should remember not to pretend theories are his own while bastardizing them.

 

So many labels, so few morons to promote them...

Yeah that's what we need... fewer incestuous, gay, cereal-horse fuckers and more morons to give them these titles.

 

One reason might be that woman have that emotional bond with eachother that men just don't have. So it seems unusual to see men that close.

 

what a great subject! I think its strange when two guys hook up and consider themselves straight. I mean from my experience men are one or another...they dont linger in the inbetween.

As for women i find it perfectly normal to have intimate encounters. That's what my own personal experience tells me.

I'm glad you brought this up.

 

I see so many fallacies in this 'theory' but am too humoured and exhausted to debate. But nice try and i even agree with some of it but not all

 

hold up...men can't hook up and call themselves straight. i follow that....but women CAN hook up and still be straight?

i don't get that. nor do i get the men 'don't hang out in between' thing. sure they do. just as much as women do. as has been said...it's not as socially acceptable for men to have sex with men as it is for women to have sex with women. but it happens just as often.

bisexuality is fun. you get to play with everybody

 

I believe every person is born with certain sexual preferences, be it straight, gay, bi, pedophile, etc. I also think a person can be born with more than one preference, such as a straight woman who fucks farm animals or a gay man who likes fucking his sister. I disagree that someone can have X% attraction to one preferance and Y% attraction for another preferance. I also think that everyone, regardless of preference, likes to get off.

When your dog humps your leg before you have him neutered, is he humping your leg because he finds it sexy? No, he's humping it because he's horny and there aren't any female dogs for him to fuck. A gay celebrity stays in the closet for 30 years, for fear of the public backlash. A straight man goes to prison and fucks other men after 20, 30 even 50 years of only being with other adult women and never having a fantasy about sex with a man. A straight man who has sex with a man in prison is still a straight man, the differences are twofold; he does not have access to his sexual preferance while incarcerated, and he is no longer subject to the religious, dogmatic cultural stigmas that prohibit a straight from having sex with another man. Inherent sexual preferance is subject to sexuality in general, which is subject cultural acceptance of the practice in question.

A girl is molested by a school teacher for years and never tells anyone. Then as an adult she becomes a teacher and fucks her 14 year old male student after class, even though she is happily married with kids to a loving adult man. A man is molested by his father, and he in turn molest his son, all the while he keeps up the pretence of a loving and caring family for the rest of the community to see. He even enjoys sex with his wife, he just can't control himself. These are examples of how external sexual influences can muddle people's sexual identities.

Finally, and most importantly, I take great offence to the accusation that any of these ideas are plagarized. All my opinions are crafted through my critically a rationally digesting years of observing human sexual behavior. That includes my friends, myself, my family, my own sexual partners and news reports covering sexual acts. I have never read a book on the subject and, more importantly, I have never and will never compomise my integrity and pass someone else's work/ideas of as my own (even on an internet forum). If you still think these aren't my original thoughts, than you are ignorant and I feel sorry for you, since you are incapable of accepting the fact that intelligent people can have opinions that vary from your own.


Jimmy