wow...man i just read through all the posts and some people are really negative. yeah suicide is not a way out, but it sometimes can appear to be. really the best thing to do is just take time and sort yourself out, whether with a shrink or by yourself. step back and look at the situation from a neutral perspective. usually when your in the middle you really can't see everything. don't get discouraged by other's negativity. love, al the pal
Huh? I hope you know that I WASN'T referring to you in my post. I was commenting on moon_flower's insensitivity to your problem. I UNDERSTAND what you are going through, SurfhipE. I've been there myself (and at times still am). When I was 16 I got drunk/high and downed a whole (super-size) bottle of asprin 'cause of family problems (and my own depression that I hadn't dealt with yet). My parents found me passed out, asked what happened and when I told them they didn't take me to the hospital (god forbid anyone find out THEIR daughter tried to commit suicide), they just made me drink TONS of apple juice to make me puke till it was out of my system. Man, I STILL can't drink apple juice to this day. That wasn't my first (or last) attempt either. I found out through therapy (and hospitalization) that I have severe depression and biploar disorder. Eventually I realized that I really didn't want to kill myself; I just wanted to kill the pain. I won't lie to you, I still have thoughts of suicide occasionally, BUT I talk about it now; to my shrink and to a close supportive friend and a few family members that understand. I've found that if I don't talk about it it just consumes me. It's not easy for me to talk about it either; I'm very closed mouthed about my problem/s. ANYWAY, my intention wasn't to ramble on about my situation; I just wanted to let you know that I understand and my heart goes out to you.
Althea, oh god I am SO...SO unbelievably sorry...I totally took it the wrong way and it was wrong of me to be so insensitive and jump on you like that. It's just with all this negative feedback and hurtful things people are saying it was hard to sort out that you were trying to HELP, not harm. I feel awful, really, thank you for sharing your story with me, to be honest, it makes me feel that I am NOT alone and although it is just one person, it helps that you are not another person who is thinking I am an attention getter or something. Wow. I hope you can forgive me for being so mean....I feel soooo bad! I am sorry you had to go through what you did, and I hope things are better for you now. Thank's again.
No need to apologize, SurfhipE I figured it was just a misunderstanding. I'M sorry that you thought I was talking about you. I just read over my "grow the fuck up" post and I can't even imagine how much that had to hurt when you thought I was referring to you. You must of thought I was one cold bitch. Actually, I'm glad you called me an asshole so we could get this cleared up! *lol* You hang in there sweetie and always remember suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem. Also, don't let people like Moon get to you. As I said in my original post, that is her/his way of getting attention; it really had nothing to do with you. Sadly, people like that are so attention starved that ANY attention (even negative) pleases them. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to talk.
That's seriously really, really sad...what kind of person tells another who is on the verge of suicide to just do it? Wow... Althea...whew! I am so glad we got that cleared up, yes, it was very stupid, and I am just glad that I am getting support on here
I feel for you, but are you aware killing yourself is possibly the most disgusting selfish thing you could do? I know; I've tried it. Besides, why waste that aspirin if you're not going to go through with it?
Hate to say it, but I agree. Just like "Spinner" posting about him killing himself, telling people you're going to kill yourself is a bout for attention. Now that's not necessarily an insult, but you do need therapy if you're going to go to those lengths. It's like those people who stand on the roof about to jump off as every one looks on and tries to negotiat with them. They're obviously crying for attention and only half of them actually jump. Taking aspirin and telling your parents isn't an attempt at suicide, it's simply a bout for attention. Try sitting them down and talking with them, and then work things out, tell them their telling you to leave hurt you, don't do something like that to see if they care. Sorry, but in her own immature way, I agree with moon flower.
points for TM for sharing his opionion in a civilized way and still trying to be helpful.although i disagree, its good to read a non-arguementitive (yes i made up a word i think) post.
I don't think suicide is selfish and I hate how people make it out to be an act of cowardice, that really bothers me. I also dislike the saying "Perminant solution to temporary problems" some problems are chronic what do you have to say to those people? Saying suicide is selfish when you yourself don't understand the pain is wrong, but you said you've tried it so that makes your opinion valid. I don't even remember what my point is anymore, I'm rambling sorry guys.
thanks i kinda understand why people say it's selfish...but, mostly I think that you do it not for yourself, but because you believe OTHERS don't want you around anymore.
That's a good point, and it's true, but tell me, and I mean this without any offense, be honest, you didn't really intend to kill yourself, did you? My theory: if you were in fact going to kill yourself you would have just laid down and died. People who kill themselves do it. My aunt tried killing herself three months ago. took a bottle of aspirin and a whole bottle of whiskey and went to her room; my cousins found her three hours later and rushed her to the hospital. Now, she survived, but she was indeed going to die. however, as I said, wanting attention through that facet isn't healthy either. You should still get some help, personal counseling, and family counseling.
That's true in theory, but mostly all people do it for the sole purpose of ending their misery not because they feel people don't want them around anymore. At least that's what I wanted to do it for.
I understand the pain, alright? I've tried committing suicide three times. But I learned that suicide is a selfish act. I'm far from religious but in the bible taking your own life is a sin because taking life is a godly act and killing or suicide is a godly act you shouldn't perform. Otherwise, realistically, I think it's selfish because you take your own misery away and end your problems meanwhile leave everyone behind with their own problems and the misery of your death. I have a loving mother, a nephew, brother, sister, father and a huge family and I tried it three times. If I'd had died it would have brought them misery and sadness so it is indeed selfish. I regret ever trying to do so, and I still consider it, but then in that situation think to yourself: "Which people will this affect?" Whether it's your father, mother, grandmother, dog, best friend, the guy you talk with across the street it doesn't matter. Your death will affect someone and that is indeed selfish to give them that misery.