What Must Be Done

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Burn, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. Burn

    Burn Member

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    As many of you are aware, the delicate and balanced wordly eco-system is being damaged, destroyed and decimated by oil drilling, rainforests being cut down, and probably countless other attempts by humanity to , in the end, gain power with money and products.

    What must be done, more importantly than recycling, than picking up garbage, than picking up the capitalist juggernaut's debri - is hitting the beast right in the eye. I'm not talking about violence, I just mean that people need an awakening to what is going on in the world, and if we continue doing what we're doing, how it will ultimately destroy the current ecosystem, and us along with it (since, despite what many have forgotten - we are still a part of this natural equilibrium). I'm sure plenty of people are doing this... Sometimes it's just good to throw a reminder out, a reinforcement.

    This is also good to throw around some ideas... What could we do? The ideas that popped into my head were... A large 'statement', larger than ever before, showing our concern for the environment.. (Whether it be planting a couple of acres of seeds or something. Hell, even bigger than that...)

    Another idea was to write some books.. A good writer who can throw the point to people and sort of have a gradual 'awakening' to what we're doing. I compare it to, with a bit of irony: The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair. He wrote about the horrible conditions within the food production systems. It woke many people up and forced laws to be passed for safety, sanitation, etc.

    We could do this. Easily. Especially because the problems we're creating now have a lot more importance than food production. More for.. survival of humanity and the rest of the current ecoystem.

    More ideas? Anyone? I think this is definitely something we should work on together. We're all humans here... I think... so, yes.. Let's work as humans, facing a problem we must solve.

    Please share your ideas.
     
  2. Dreamcatcher

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    I agree that something big must be done but a lot of people don't understand the importance of this, because the earths here now they think it always will be. Therefore I think education is very important in tackling the problem, if more people really understood the environmental problems the earth is facing more would take action. Maybe schools and other institutions could have compulsory lessons on it or have someone quite inspirational to give speeches explaining the problems and how we can help. i think people understanding is a start to tackling it.
    Advertisements using shock factors to make people aware is another idea - to frighten them into doing something!!!!!!

    A petition or something to make governments do more, i dont think George Bush is up on these environmental issues? I'm not really sure about this, so correct me if I'm wrong :) I dont think he takes them seriously.

    I agree with the book idea aswell- if it is good enough they can really influence people. For example Rachel Carson wrote Silent Spring about agricultural insecticides and that brought about important changes.

    Just a a few ideas, anymore? Peace xx
     
  3. Burn

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    Dreamcatcher, excellent ideas - and I'm sure Bush isn't too keen on the environmental issues. I've seen various articles in the news about cutbacks concerning environmental help. In fact, the most recent one I read was about how the administration allowed certain laws to be rebuked, or dissolved (something to that nature) that would help control mercury release, though probably directed towards health benefits of humans... So I guess we'll be having problems with that sometime soon?
    We probably will have to dig around for a while to uncover where a lot of the atrocities, so to speak, are occuring. We then will publicize them, and push that 'shock factor' out into media outlets. Get people to listen and say to themselves, 'Wow, that's really bad..." That'll be the 'intiation'. At the same time, we'd need excellent writers to create compelling and serious books about the natural environment, the dangers of our societal attitude towards it, and guidelines on what to do.

    Media, distribution, culture shock, literature. Yes, that sounds like an excellent idea for a beginning.
     
  4. Burn

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    Well, anyone else?

    And,

    Will you rise to this obligation we have?
     
  5. Dreamcatcher

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    :( nobody cares!! We never seem to want to do anything until its too late!
    Everyone who reads this - do a little something to help our earth, like energy saving etc... Everyone can make a difference.

    hopefully the governments will realise that we need to act now! xx
     
  6. robostiltzkin

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    There is enough scare-mongering in this arena. That is why people do not take environmental issues seriously, in general. True, verifiable facts are important, and essential, not politicized rhetoric. Blaming specific individuals, parties, etc accomplishes NOTHING. True scientific, irrefutable proof will do more than 1000 emotional pleas, because, as they say "we've heard it all". Unfortunately that proof is hard to come by. More research, untainted by politics, will give the strength of conviction, and more importantly, the backing to refute arguements that may arise.
     
  7. Burn

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    I have an idea that I will do, based on my own abilities...

    I will write.

    And I will talk.

    I suggest you spread the word, and the tools of awareness to everyone who is open to listen to your suggestion, that we are part of this garden of Earth, and that our roots will suffocate all life but our own, eventually leading to self assured destruction - if we do not change. Do what you can, because, as a flower of this garden, it is an obligation to.
     
  8. james_mcknz

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    I think one of the most important things that needs to be done to protect the earth and cut down on use of fossil fules is bike riding. this is a simple way to conserve energy and protect the planet.
     
  9. NatureFreak412

    NatureFreak412 Art of Balance

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    Thats like awesome. This needs to be like a national movement.
     
  10. WharfRat

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    limit the populations worldwide... the reason theres hunger/famine, mass industrialization, deforestation(sp?), mass consumption is because the world population is larger than what the world can support...the more people there are the more we consume, pollute and destroy the earth...I also think one of the biggest problems is that no one really gives a shit about whats going on and even if theyre concerned, theyre not concerned enough to do anything about it...dont need to sound negative, I think theres still hope but its slim, limiting the world population would help
     
  11. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    The problem is, no one cares. If it means they can buy less, or have to pay more, most people won't want to help. There are loads of books written on this. I read one by Derrick Jensen "Strangely Like War" about deforestation and it really depressed me. Even where people work hard as hell to save one bit of forest, it's a totally uphill battle and they always lose. Always. Even temporary wins turn into eventual losses. When you read this book, you get depressed, but also angry, and fired up. But who's reading it? More importantly, who's doing anything, and what is there to be done? I sure as hell don't see any way to stop this, because the government is in on it. It's probably like that for most other issues too.

    The only way to stop these assholes is to stop ourselves. After all, if we stop giving them money, they won't have an incentive to cut forests. But it's a worldwide problem. How can we get the entire world to stop demanding wood-pulp paper products or wood based products? It'd be hard enough to just get the USA to stop, let alone everyone else.

    I haven't given up all hope, though. I try to do my part, recycling, using less, reusing what I can. I try not to buy things I *really* need. And I agree on the biking thing, I drive as little as possible, and much prefer walking or biking. But it's like a drop of water to the ocean, and everyone I know just makes fun of me, calling me a tree hugger or a hippie. I'm proud of these labels, but these people don't give a shit.
     
  12. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I firstly would make everyone take personal resposibility of the actions they tak..its all very well blaming this goverment and that goverment..but i do believe they do a great deal ..through public pressure and global responsibility.. Not guilt as such.. I am sure ther are valiant crusaders in all partys..

    Somebody said, i am sure i heard this about something about that and Bush was doing this and not doing that. Well firstly no offence find the information and read it.. I have found its not always as bad as is made out (no i don't believe goverments are complete saints)... Many enviromentalist organisations of course have members who pay them subscriptions and earn millions of dollars/pounds etc every year.. This keeps them afloat, so imho (and that of many) they are bound to be biased, if not even more so. Only re interpreting scientific information in there favour . Not doing a lot themselves to prove what they think is wrong with the world, just merely pandering to the people that fund them..The same thing they accuse others of doing.

    So what must be done.. a clear unbiased scientific opion and the sharing of this information free of charge. This information is out there its the orators of this information that do the spin doctoring for there own ends....
     
  13. jypsymoth3

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    but honestly, every one knows the world spins on money, or at least the media does. and a majority of the ppl are robots of the media at least the ppl who need to wake up to the facts of what their doing to the earth. so the key may be getting to the ppl who control the media, if we could get them to wake up there maybe hope still out their. but until then we need to spread the message ourselfs. untill conservation is the first question being asked when making dissecions that effect the economy.
     
  14. Burn

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    If this all is the case, then so be it.

    I have faith in those that see, and I also have faith that man cannot beat mother nature. She has his genetic spiral on her fingertips, his breath on a whim, his food at her feet - in a manner of speaking. If man continues to defy the very thing that created him and continues to let him be, that thing will no longer support him. In our case, that is extinction.

    There is still hope in those that see, and those that will choose to open their eyes and gain a matured level of consciousness. Do what you can, because you must.

    The future of our kind is in our hands. We alone choose how we will let things play out. Have faith in yourself, your abilities, your potential to change things. Even if society must crumble, the ozone burn our skin and the waters flood our shores - it is not too late. Our kind is blessed by unseen forces (or perhaps not, depending on what you believe) with the abilities of creativity, inventiveness and infinite potential. Understand this and use it in your own unique way.
     

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