A beautiful post from an Iraqi wife.

http://neurotic-iraqi-wife.blogspot.com/2005/04/alive-in-baghdad.html

 

Thats one of the most positive (tinged with a bit of sadness) things i have read within 'america attacks' in a very long time...thanks.

when i looked at this post..36 others had also.. With no comment at all. how sad is that.

 

i read it and didn't leave a comment. i don't feel the need to comment on every single thing i read really.

it's one side of a many many many sided story that i know relatively little about.

 

sorry i did not mean to be patronising or anything (though possibly was)..just it seemed sad that crazy crap can be commented on with great regularity..and this kind of thing is not.

 

know what you mean. often people just don't know what to say. often people are just 'that's too heavy for me right now, i wanna talk about getting pissed', and yeah, that's sad.

 

It was just realy refreshing to read...

 

Ah, optimism.

I hope she's right in her 2033 forecast, but history books make it seem highly unlikely.

 

History books ..or the wonderful tabloid newspapers.. ?

 

I thought it was well written, passionate, and she has a point about how it should be the Iraqi people defining their own destiny in their own country. Sure the troops might go, sure the beheaders may go, but will the culture remain and define itself. Will the square be as she says, or will there be a Disney store, TRL, Starbucks, you get the picture.

 

The history books. And I'm not talking about the US or Iraq here, but about all other countries of this sort. Nothing good ever comes from these revolutions. This woman's article is emotional and beautiful, no doubt about it, but she is not an expert on the topic. She only sees biased bits and fragments, and tries to make sense of them. Mixing emotion with politics is a very dangerous thing. This woman, as any other citizen, is subject to propaganda and false information. I doubt she studied much history and knows how involved the US was/is with terrorists around the world. I doubt, for example, that she knows what the US did to Afghanistan in order to crush the rise of socialism there.

Never forget that an anecdote is not data, nor is its plural. Just because a creative writer from Iraq believes in some forecast for the future (which is more hope and belief than an actual prediction) doesn't make that forecast accurate or likely.

 

LOL. note how those who keep wanting to ignore the reality of the mess we've made and fraudulent, falsely reported (and often underreported) electoral process (illegally imposed by we occupiers in total contravention of the Vienna Convention), have not once questioned the source of this blog.

If anything were more untrustworthy and a likely source of Pentagon inspired propaganda (a Pentagon practice long known and well documented, especially in relation to the conquest of Iraq) it would be this.

The flowery imagery and lack of any reference to the very real widespread disdain for our continued presence and our destruction of their vital infrastructure makes this more demonstrably a tool for evoking precisely the emotive idealism this thread represents.

Keep believing the insurgents arent normal iraqis rightfully assuming their patriotic response toward foreign aggressors and all those who support them in them in the country. Keep telling yourselves that we Americans wouldn't be doing exactly the same thing against invaders and fellow Americans who sided with them.

I suggest those of you who are so desperate for "good news" go do some real investigation into the use of blogs (as well as administration-made false "news" videos) being used to keep the domestic US populace duly misinformed.

Iraqi wife, yeah right. (try some counter intel guy in the US embassy).

 

Before you go off ranting and raving ... oh you already have hahaha, why not read the link and see the info that she is reading.. if your don't agree with what it says..then it says more about you and more about her then any kind of fictitious intel guy in the US embassy that you wish for this information to come from.. that would suit your bias ..

LickHERish .. normal guy expressing his views..yeah right some delusional crackpot, US hating saddam loving extremist.. Yeah its a unfair thing to say i know...its called sarcasm

 

Just the sort of blissfully ignorant retort i expected of you. Oh and fyi, I read the blog and as I said, youd do well to bother infomring yourself with some actual research (yeah, i realise, the US media is oh so factual and objective lol ) into the already well exposed practice of false reporting, blogs and other media employed by the OSP (look it up and learn something) in its propaganda crusade.

If thats too tough, continue on your merry sheepish way in the land of misinformation. Karl Rove expects no less.

 

I don't expect we will every see an end to the complete bewilderment and fury exhibited by the anti-war left when confronted with the fact that many Iraqis don't see things quite the same way their Socialist Worker reading "supporters" do. Expect many more "LOLs" when inconvenient facts surface.

First there were the celebrations at Saddam's downfall, and polls suggesting most Iraqis supported the intervention and removal of Saddam from power. Then - worst of all - there was the sight of Iraqis risking their lives for elections. And all throughout there are posts such as this woman's story or everday sights of george bush posters in kurdish shops in northern Iraq. Why can't these Iraqis see things which "progressives" can see so clearly from thousands of miles away from their internet cafes and salons?

Why can't this woman see things like the patriotric resistance, which apparently by sheer coincidence is strongest and most popular in areas which were home to Saddam's strongest supporters?

Why can't the UN stop recognising the legality of the elections and the new government? After all the judgement has been made by the left that the new illegal government has illegally been formed against international law, and is illegal and not legal and contravenes the law? Since when does the UN, and not left wing zealots, decide what governments are to be recognised?

Remember, any inconvenient information must have come from the CIA or some counter intel guy. Maybe Mossad too. Remember, Lick told us that Wolfowitz is an Israeli dual citizen, although he can't actually prove it.

 

*Yawn* more of PB's happy neocon regurgitative braindead drivel to brighten our otherwise fury-ridden lives.

Sorry to disappoint you lad, but my fury is reserved for the unaccountable criminals you avoid scrutinising at all cost to preserve your happily blinkered preference for "business as usual". So long as someone is making a buck youre happy, regardless of the backlash building up.

You are little more than comic relief at present and will certainly be crawling back under your rock when all your beliefs have crumbled in the face of reality.

Until then, do continue to enthrall us with your penchant for denial.

 

I fail to understand how Matthew accuses me of getting my information from false sources and being biased (when in fact most of what I learned about the Middle East is based on solid facts) when he gets his information from a random woman's blog. I called her a 'creative writer' because that's what she is. She is not a news reporter. She is not a political scientist. She is not an historian. She is just a random citizen. Her blog's power is not in facts (she has none) but on writing style, imagery and emotion.

Even if this blog is authentic, it is still meaningless.

No doubt, as any other person I have my bias, but my it is rooted in facts rather than emotions. My information about Afghanistan comes from books, but since I doubt you'll go to the library and take out a book on the history of Afghanistan, please read the following Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Afghanistan (while wikipedia has some biases, they are quite minimal and there is no dispute regarding this particular article). In particular, the following part of it:

This is a bit stronger than blogs, is it not? Or would you say that Wikipedia is a tabloid? Or would you say that the US had every right to fund terrorists in order to eliminate the evil red commies?

 

Calm down y'all. I did not post this as "NEWS", I posted it for what it's worth. Whether you believe she's a real Iraqi wife or not, there ARE plenty of Iraqi citizens who DO share her views. I wouldn't even hesitate to say that they may be a majority.

It's always good to have different perspectives. Ellis posted a post from Baghdad Burning the other day, and that IS a blog that I also read often. I like to have different perspectives of what's going on over there. I just felt like this one had so much hope, it made me smile (and yes, it was still so very sad), and I thought it was worth sharing.

 

Oh, I know. I never complained about your original post, just said it seemed a bit too optimistic. It's just some people start claiming that her views are based on facts ("Judging by the amount of daily sites she visits..i am sure she is more aware of what is going on than hordes of people who bang on about this morning noon and night around here"), and then claiming that calling her a creative writer is "an insult to the lady.. dismissing everything she says as fantasy..".

Never have I said that there is no place for emotional stories in war, coming from any point of view. It's just when people start seeing this things as anything other than emotional stories when the problem occurs.

 

Have you not noticed i am i am living in England..its just little details like that , that made me say read the link.. I was just saying that the one link mushrooms out into countless other links and those move onto further links etc .. Not all positive towards what is going on, and filled with info that can be further looked into.. I am sure your right about the osp, but i think you posted what you said because of the content of that one short peice , rather than a investigative study of all within the link.. Neither did i, but i did not think oh this must be what is going on in iraq and this is what it is like.. and then go back to snuggle up into my nice duvet of ignorance. It was just nice to read something positive around here for once (in a blue moon).