Your Salvia Experiences Please...

Hey people!

A few weeks back my friend and I both tried salvia for the first time. Both our experiences were quite similar and nothing like anyone else we know have experienced. see we both had quite supernatural experiences. Mine was more a past-life and my friends a spirit trying to get thru her. We asked her mum ( who is a certified medium) and she said that's exactly how it is...Has anyone else had similar experiences with Salvia? If not what was yours? I hope you can be of some help and comfort! Thank you.

Marie-Clare x

 

a certified medium!!!!! isn't that an oxymoron???

I also think the official term may be charlaton!!

Always wanted to try salvia but if it makes me believe in past lives and spirits channelling through me then bollocks to that I am sticking with mushrooms...

(not trying to be offensive here just have strong views on this kind of thing)

 

but also - i tried salvia before and it just wasnt worth it, boring, so im not doing it again, basicly the ground felt a bit softer nad like bouncy and i saw random flashes of purple when i looked at the sky but apart from that i was 100% fine, the purple was probably just a head rush from looking down or something oh and i was walking on sandy/grass surfice so u know bouncy anwyay

 

hehe yeah...

 

My hand is up!

 

Do you even know what an oxymoron is??? Well, it means to contradict yourself. And since my friends mum has been certified by The National Federation Of Spiritual Healers as a medium that would indeed make her a certified medium.

 

Military intellgence is an official term..I still consider that an oxymoron.....


oh and "The National Federation Of Spiritual Healers" why didn't you say so.....Must be true then....

I can't even be bothered to go into why this is not real certification due to the fact of zero scientific study or analysis of the whole field, and that there is not one proven case of any medium talking to anyone who is dead and in fact all they are really doing is preying on people's grief which I actually find quite sickening and disturbing...I have better things to waste my time doing...

 

Yes, but I find the thought of you masturbating sickening and disturbing

 

As always Dok in there with the sex quip.... and anyways you said it was kinda cute....

but can we keep it to the discussion about mediums as I am interested on people's views on this one...

 

Actually, I was trying to drag it slightly off topic and inject a bit of light hearted humour as I thought there was a danger of things getting a little offensive. And if anyone's gonna be offensive around here, it's gonne be me

 

Don't worryDok you will always be the most offensive....

Have started a new topic...Am not trying to be offensive, just have very very strong views on this particular area and am trying to find out people's idea;s about it.....Am looking for a discussion and reasons to change my views if need be...not an argument.

 

Years of practice. You ****

 

he he....

 

Something doesn't have to be scientifically proven to be certified. The bishop serves god does he not? thats not been sci proven but it still what it is. And again look oxymoron up in the dictionary - or is that your lame attempt at bein funny? I think you'll find it means contradiction. Do you even know what your talkin about?

 

he he you do make me laugh...*takes deep breath* I don't believe in God anymore than I do mediums, so I believe the bishop is not serving God but giving a service to society which in my opinoin is not needed..I have no problem with religious people but I do with religious organisations that are corrupt and cause more harm than good..Oh so thats all of them then....

Ok do you not think military intelligence is a contradiction in terms...Is the best example in my book....I know exactly what oxymoron means, as pointed out above it was used in a sense of irony, stop taking everything so literally...

Do I even know what I am talking about...Well I would hope so seeing as I am trying to argue some valid points here..Your points are mostly unsubstantiated idea's being thrown at me in a measure of trying to look intelligent...

As to your certification that it doesn't need to be proven...Would you be happy going to an uncertified doctor for treatment, or putting your car into a garage withan uncertified mechanic, hey what about getting on a plane with an uncertified pilot...If there is really something there throw it open for full scientific investigation, get it validated by INDEPENDENT scholars and then declare yourself fully certified...Get the backing of a university, or a government body.....But then again this aint gonna happen cos it would prove what a crock of horse shit the whole thing is.....

 

I'm not convinced either way, but in fairness, it's a bit silly to suggest that you subject the spirit world to scientific methodology. For the thing to exist in the first instance would surely put it outside the realm of science?

Imagine for a minute that god exists. Imagine also that god is not subject to the laws of the physical universe. If we were to require scientific proff that god existed, then we'd never be able to prove it because god was outside our known universe and the laws thereof.

Now I'm not arguing that god and/or mediums are real, but if you require scientific proof of everything, then that would preclude the discovery of anything that transcends our known physical universe. That's a bit like closing your eyes and hoping that if you ignore something it'll cease to be.

 

I don't agree with that in the slightest and think it is a very naive statement....Most of the laws of the universe did not correspond to what we have known at times and defied all logic of the time such as newtons laws of physics not being applicable in space/in a vacumn etc, but we didn't just forget about them, or put them down to a faith in something we couldn't explain...We studied them and a great man called Mr Einstein (I think his first name was Albert) came up with quantum physics which helped to explain them...Just because something does not fit with what we know does not mean it cannot be explained or studied...There are lots of things we cannot explain now such as dark matter but that does not mean we will never be able to explain it. To say that something that is outside of our physical universe cannot be syudied is a very bold statement....

Anyway talking to the dead is easy to verify....If any medium out there can talk to the dead then ask my nan who was married to my grandad Eric, what her name was....No I get a fucking L coming through or someone with a dog wants to say something about a broach..Just a name....Thre's a challenge..

Put this on a larger scale and there you have your scientific test.....

 

I think that's a very rude and offensive reply. I fail to see why you feel the need to be abusive towards people who don't share your point of view. You know, that's exactly the mentality of those people who insisted that the earth was flat.

I never said that becuase something is currently inexplicable that that places it automatically outside the realm of the physical universe. What I said is that if you automatically preclude the possibility of anything existing beyond the realm of measurable physics, then you're in the realm of denying a possibility just because you don't like it.

 

Take that reply how you want, am not gonna molly cuddle you if you get offended that easily...But mediumship does not lie outside our known universe... if can be tested....it is a human thing...That is my point...Hell if we were talking about other dimensions or something I would conceed to your point, but we are talking about a human endevour which can be verified...

 

It's got fuck-all to do with how I 'took it'. You called me naive simply because I suggested an alternative perspective. That's fucking rude. If you're not gonna respect other people's opinions, then there's no point discussing this with you. I happen to agree with you that most (if not all) mediums are fakes. It would've been interesting to get around to discussing that, but I don't think you're being rational so I guess we'll never have that conversation.