Capitalism and Anarchism

Discussion in 'Anarchy' started by Aberfoyle, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    No need to be a dick, Revo. I have no doubt that you know more about the neo-anarchist movement than me, but you don't seem to know what anarchy means. I never said that neo-anarchists don't give a fuck, all I said about them is that they are ignorant if they think that they are anarchists. Anarchists don't give a fuck about politics, it is part of the definition, neo-anarchists, whatever they may call themselves, simply do not promote an anarchist philosophy. Anarchy has nothing to do with democracy or communism, it is simply "Do what thou wilt." There are no laws, governments or anything of the sort under anarchy.

    It doesn't matter what infoshop says, their definition of anarchy is simply incorrect. I could make a website saying that christianity is the worship of Elvis Prestley as lord and savior, I might even get a lot of followers to believe me, but it doesn't make it true. Hell, christianity is a much more debated word than anarchy, just about everyone except for neo-anarchists is in agreement about it.

    Anarchy means complete lack of any form of government to everyone in the world except for neo-anarchists. If you don't like the confusion that this causes you should find something else to call yourself, because it meant that long before you guys started calling a political movement anarchy. Stop calling people stupid for going by the common definition of anarchy, it doesn't help your cause, the neo-anarchists are the ones who look stupid for so blatantly misusing a simple and widely understood word with a simple meaning.
     
  2. RevoMystic

    RevoMystic Member

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    "but you don't seem to know what anarchy means."

    Hmm, is that true? For one, the technical term is "anarchism", not anarchy. And again, you're wrong. It's not that we don't "care" about politics...we HATE politics as usual. We are not A-political like your average X-box playing guido club-kid, but instead we hate the idea of a central body dictating what is politically (un)acceptable by use of force and coercion. We choose to fight against it, which itself doesn't make us anarchists, but activists...or at best, Revolutionaries. Or as the corporate state would quietly say, terrorists. LOL

    Just because there is no central authority doesn't mean anarchists promote a "do what you want" philosophy. That would entail chaos, right? Anarchism is about organized freedom, not chaos or disorder.

    "It doesn't matter what infoshop says, their definition of anarchy is simply incorrect."

    Hahaha, no need to even respond to that, because as is typically the case, you're wrong again. But what the hell. To actually say that "their" definition is incorrect is pathetically arrogant as well as ignorant, since you haven't a clue as to what you're talking about. This anarchist movement is global in scale...are you saying that these tens of millions of activists are ALL wrong in their defintion of what anarchism is about? C'mon dude, come off your self-constructed pedestal.

    "Stop calling people stupid for going by the common definition of anarchy". That statement in itself contained nothing but stupidity, yet you don't want to be called stupid. You poor kid, I won't insult you anymore because you probably just needs lots of hugs. The "common" definition is the definiton the mainstream media as well as your 7th grade history teacher would have you believe. I assure you, its *their* definition that is incorrect. You have no business judging this global movement which has been growing/festering/developing for the past decade being that you are not a scholar on the subject. Not that I know every last thing there is to know...it is, afterall, a work in progress (go ahead, use that against me) but I do know enough to say that you are incorrect in ALL your assessments, I mean, assumptions of what this movement means. I will grant you, however, that maybe the word itself should be thrown out...much like the word "communism" (which I can't stand). Because in reality, we are Global Justice advocates who are seeking the permanent and complete downfall of Imperial autocratic-corporate militarism, or whatever label you want to call it, there are many labels to choose from. So instead of arguing semantics and definitions of possibly-obsolete words, the focus of discussion should be on tactics and ways of achieving these goals.
     
  3. Kandahar

    Kandahar Banned

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    So are you or are you not in favor of a police force, a judicial system, and a legal code? If so, how can you call yourself an anarchist? And if not, what's to prevent people from committing mass murder, or even worse, trying to make a profit?

    Yes, the tens of millions of socialists and communists masquerading as anarchists are ALL wrong in their definition of anarchy.

    "An" - Latin for "without"
    "Archy" - Latin for "rule"
    "Anarchy" - Latin for "without rule"

    It's not hard to figure out the definition.


    LOL. Every movement on the planet thinks that they have been growing/festering/developing for the past decade. In reality, anarchy has made NO progress.

    I wouldn't be concerned about arguing semantics, if not for the fact that communists such as yourself routinely call yourselves anarchists in an effort to recruit "X-box playing guido club-kids," when you are almost the exact opposite. It isn't a word like "liberal" or "conservative" that can mean different things to different people. The definition of anarchy is clear-cut, and you are anything but an anarchist.
     
  4. RevoMystic

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    Kandahar, I didn't even read anything you wrote. I don't take anything you say seriously. AT BEST, we won't agree anyway, so there's no point arguing. You are not eligible for the discussion of radical politics. Go away and support some right-of-center democrat.
     
  5. robostiltzkin

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    Just because you aren't indoctrinated through left-wing propaganda means you are ineligible to discuss radical politics?. So, if you ARE indoctrinated, will you please refrain from discussing anything that pertains to reality?
     
  6. Communism

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    No, not a fool.

    What kind of society do anarchists want?

    A classless, stateless society without money or markets organized according to the principle “from each according to ability, to each according to need”


    Now, what kind of society do communists want?


    A classless, stateless society without money or markets organized according to the principle “from each according to ability, to each according to need”




    That is simply not true. Where do you get this from? CNN or Fox News?
     
  7. Anarchism is completely different to capitalism.

    Capitalism removes laws from the practices of businessmen, politicians and economists in market, therefore making it 'free', but places rigid laws and authority over the choices of living of the everyday people in the society.

    Anarchism removes the tabs and laws that dictate the way the everyday person lives therefore creating a free society as opposed to a fee market.

    Fundamentally, capitalism gives more freedom to the rich and powerful. Anarchism attempts to give freedom to every individual, whether it would work or not i dont know.

    The idea that they are the same is far too simplified.
     

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