I know it says when you trip to be in a safe environment, to lay down, and it should be dark and quiet. And on one site It said noise and distraction will interfere with the experience. So does that mean if I walk around outside that I wont trip or some of the effects wont be present during the trip? Because I know going outside would be unsafe but I would think it would be cooler if I go walking around outside. And this is going to be my first experience.
i plan on doing some salvia sometime soon on a sunny day... I figure if i go chill in a big enough park ill have nothing to worry about... from what ive heard the trip lasts 5-30 mins. As long as i have a friend to keep me from attacking any nearby geese. i imagine just laying in a field of grass and disovling into the sky or into the earth. A breezy day might distract u from people making noises around u, or better yet fly a kite with wind chimes tied to it.
i dont think youll be flying a kite while tripping salv. Its not as mellow or even similar at all to acid or mushrooms.
when i as using salvia, i cannot walk. i actually never make the move to get up and start walking. You are not aware enough to think about taking a walk and enjoying nature.
I understand, but what i was planing to do is walking around a little and then walking to my local coffee shop and having a nice cup of coffee.
You think it would be 'cooler' if you go walking outside? Depending on the strength of the dose, Salvia can render extreme clumsiness and cause you to run into things or otherwise hurt yourself. In one case, a guy hit level 5 and wound up breaking his shoulder, though he didn't know it until he came round at the hospital. So it's strongly advised that you stay put and have a responsible sitter keeping watch. Salvia likes darkness and quiet. Some people use gentle music with good results, while others say sounds are a distraction, so that's a personal preference. It really sounds like you're expecting Lady Salvia to alter your perception and leave your physical sensibilities untouched. She won't. If a simple trip is all you want, it would be better to use another substance. Check out the Salvia users guide here: http://sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html Great reading material and highly recommended for those who are considering meeting Her. Take special note of the section, "Salvia experiences: what to expect." Peace.
It doesn't have to be dark, but it DOES have to be spacious and clean. If it's messy or other environmental factors interfere (like a TV), it can be REALLY, REALLY annoying/disheartening. Laying down is just easiest. It means that, on a powerful experience, you probably won't get yourself hurt. If you are just testing it out and taking a small dose (or if you prefer smaller doses), then there really isn't much harm in walking around and looking at things. Actually, I prefer walking around in a forest if I'm on a lower dose. It can be very joyful. But the doses can be very small if you have a powerful extract, so watch yourself. If you walk around, you are still going to get all the effects. The problem is, you probably won't want those effects while you're walking, and you definately don't want to do it in public. If you really want to do it outside and have a powerful experience, get a sitter, and find a really big open field, where if you want, you can walk, run, jump, or lay down. Chances are it'll be the latter, but just in case, you'll be covered by your sitter. Make sure you trust the sitter with your life, though!
because the peak effect is so short, consider the whole thing as prep like tying shoes. concentrate on getting the effect and lying down and experiencing it. it will release you in about 5 minutes, then you can finish "tying your shoes" and go out to the coffee shop. yesterday I had plain salvia in a joint in the park. difficult to threashold that way, but the after effects included some closed eye visuals for ~45 minutes (unusually long), though I never really got past level 3 in the park. later I had some extract with the expected steep and rapid ramp of effect and quick descent. afterwards I could have been wrapped up and shipped to a coffee shop, but It was late.
i pretty much understand all that you said.....but i wanted to be tripping while at the coffee shop, because i would be going there with a very interesting friend and they would be completly sober and personally i think enjoying a nice cup of joe while triping will be quite amusing.
Well im the strange friend who goes with you to the coffy shop and we will have a grand ol' time. I hope to see many mexicans and chinese people there who like the sound of a nice flactuation
then you must contrive to smoke while you are there. but practice at home first a few times. this is not what you are imagining.
Tripping on shrooms or LSD may be fine and dandy for going to a coffee shop, but Salvia is way different. There is no way you'd even be able to compose yourself in a coffee shop (assuming you are getting powerful effects that are past threshold level; if they're not too powerful, you won't be tripping, it'll just be a high). But on particularly powerful trips, you won't even recognize that you exist in reality; you'll be in a completely different place, with no coordination of reality. If you try to go to the coffee shop like that ... well, you'd have to smoke it IN the coffee shop, you plain wouldn't make it to the coffee shop during the peak of a powerful experience. You might take 2 or 3 steps toward it, but those steps probably wouldn't be taken with the intent of going to the coffee shop, it'd just be you tripping. =P
When it comes on strong, first I feel quite glorified, and loverly things seem to be emerging - jewelled, nice, luxurious. then within a half minute, the dimension thing, or the pages of the book thing or just plain polymorphous proliferatus, multilegged - many armed, multivoiced, manifold personalities, and maybe elves and vines and well you know - which is all just too much for anything but safe containment of the body supporting it all. which I why you should try it out at home, maybe bedside the bed, with a sitter.
