thats not the song we're talking about nathan thats gin and juice, i just dl the song. If its the one your talking about (starts off like "once upon in 1776 Thomas Jefferson signed his name on a piece of marijuana") we can all safely assume it is not Phish, nor does it sound anything like phish. Phish is more than just one person with his guitar....
Yes that's the song. Now that I listen to it it doesn't sound like Phish. Thanks guys for clearing that up for me. Does anyone know who actually does sing that song?
The marijuana song is by the Brian Robbins Band. And yes, I love Phish too, I just figured I'd answer your question.
I love phish too. But while their sound is unique i guess you could say. I like some other bands more. Right now im listening to keller williams and string cheese incident. i really hope phish gets back together. it was a shame when they broke up
Not true at all. Fishman and Trey don't even speak to each other anymore, nevermind the idea of them playing together. Mike, Page and John all have a tremendous amount of animosity towards Trey right now. People really need to give up on the idea of them ever getting back together. It really was a rather 'nasty' divorce. Trust me, the likelyhood of Phish playing together again is about the same as the Talking Heads or the Police getting back together - not gonna happen. and Orsino, trust me, what you here about Trey being an asshole is completely true. I've met the man a few times, dated his best friend's sister back and 2000/2001 and even he agreed that, yes, Trey is a self absorbed ego maniac asshole, which made it very difficult for him to be friends with the guy at times. We talked at length about the band on several occasions and the same theme always came up - Trey just didn't respect the other members of the band as equals - viewed them almost like they were his back up band. He had to be the one calling the shots and rarely 'listened' to what the other musical voices in the band had to offer. I will say that I had so many great experiences seeing the band. I saw them a good 70 times dating back to 93, including some very historic shows, such as their performance of Gamehenge at Great Woods in 94. It was a magical run, but without a doubt, its over for good.
its sad really how someone can be like that. it makes you not like him. but i still love them haha weird
Yeah, I know what you mean... I could feel his self thought of superiority to Mike, Page, and John when he was on stage, sometimes... It was just a feeling you'd wonder about. I just never thought he was really as much of an egomaniac as most people say he is. Then again, I've only been to a handful of phish shows, with my uncle, and they were all post 94. I could also feel the animosity they had towards trey when they broke up, which is just what made me move on. I still appreciate what they all four gave the musical world and what they did for the jam scene, but I've gotten over the thought of them ever getting back together... maaayyyybe one day they might come to terms, but I wouldn't plan on it anytime soon or get my hopes up.
actually the moment I started to realize what Trey was about, was during 1994. I saw them for the first time in 93, the summer between my junior and senior year in high school. Then starting in the spring of 94 when I was near graduation, I started seeing them as often as possible - absolutely loved it. I caught 25+ shows that year (needless to say, my class attendance first semester in college was very low). Those were some magic times, but then during the New Years run of 94' in Providence, second set, David Bowie - 30 minutes of utter crap. David Bowie has always been one of my favorite Phish songs. When the opening high hat notes from Fishman started it off, I was in heaven, then Trey just went into it like 'I'm going to make this the longest and best damn Bowie ever' - it started off good, but then just got into this jam in the middle which the rest of the band was completely not into, they were all trying to real him back in as if to say, trey wtf r u doin' listen to us this is stupid - it was completely forced, unnatural and all about what Trey wanted to do, not the rest of the band. It just made no sense - the song didn't evolve with everyone's contribution - it was just what Trey wanted to do and you could see the struggle on stage because of it. It really hit me hard, major let down. From there on out, I started seeing more and more of it, Trey just over-exerting his will on the compositions, and as I moved to Burlington and got the chance to meet the band and those in their community, it became very clear that the end was near.
Wow I never thought I'd meet so many people who love Phish. Everyone I ask around here is like "WHO!? Fish is food!"
I love Phish music, just wish I'd learned of them in 1993 instead of ten years later. Good that they broke up, it was time, but I'm still glad I got to hear their music. Live especially, nothing like a Phish show. There's a lot of shit there, but a lot of good stuff too. I have the opinion that there is no music quite like Phish, and some people are glad of that. But I like them a lot, musically. For the most part.
DHS, I dno i havnt been to nearly as many shows as you (im only 16) but from the shows that i have heard I would disagree wtih you on a few points. 94 was a year in which we heard more of trey, it was a guitar fueled year. I personally dont mind cuz in 94 trey was the sickestttt ive ever heard him, but then after that from like 95 to right before the hiatus i think that phish was really balanced musically. And i dont think ppl should judge trey like they do.
They most definitely do still talk to each other. Gordo and Page were at Trey's Higher Ground share on April 1st and were very supportive of his new direction. I've also seen posts and talked to people who have run into Fish, Mike, Trey, and Page who all say that they still talk to each other often, and according to what Tony Levin has said they all were at the Barn for a jam. They certainly don't hate each other. Especially not Fish and Trey, those two guys are like brothers. Page has said in interviews that he still calls Trey at least once a week. They all wonder what Trey was thinking, but they're willing to let him do his own thing for now. If Trey really thought he was that much above the rest of them, then he never would have stepped back from soloing in 96 and tried to let a new sound develop. The funk of 97 developed because of the 10/31/96 Remain in Light show, and mostly because of Mike stepping up on 3/1/97, Slip Stitch and Pass. The whole "Hey Hole!" excercise was developed in order to let everyone do their own thing within the band. That was around 96 or so IIRC. Trey certainly was their leader, but they all were pretty much fine with that. The Relix interview from Dec 2003 - Jan 2004 explains that quite well, and the RS post-hiatus interview also shows you how close they were. If anything, Trey was often unsatisfied in the late 90s that he was too much of the leader. He always is quoted about how he wanted other people to step up more and play more. Trey is not really Wilson. I'll gladly agree that he has a massive ego though, and yes the Breakup Letter and his reasoning hit me as if the man was so self-absorbed as to be entirely readicculus. But ego or not, he did love Phish, and he does love his friends in the band. They certainly have played together seperately since Coventry, and if reports from many people are to be believed, together. There is no real animosity between them. Call up Mike's hotline and ask him sometime. I talked to Mike after a Duo show and he talked about how he ran into Trey all the time, and chills with him often. They go to the same Higher Ground shows quite a bit as well. There isn't hatred amongst guys as close as those four are. Quite a bit of wondering WTF?, but they've talked about it for coming on a year now. Talk is rampant about all these issues in the Phish community. Over on PT, and RMP. Some of the most obsessed fans in the world have been hashing over all of this and checking every interview and "sighting" for close to a year. I follow the talk and posts and reports every day, as I'm a severly obsessed Phish fan. A common term amongst us is "Phowl", that is the rebirth of Phish. Come on over to phantasytour.com/phish and ask around about these topics. Trey may indeed be an asshole... or he may be confused and egomaniacal, or he may be both and just wants to do his own thing for awhile, but there is no open hatred amongst the boys, otherwise Mike and Page would not be hanging out with him still and going to his new project's first show. If it was all about Trey then 97 would've never happened. That whole year was nothing but amazing interplay that created some of the best jams of all time. They were simply on another level there, quite different from the Trey dominated years of 94-95. Anyway I caught Phish just under 40 times going back to 96. But like I said I've listened to close to 1000 shows, pored over their work for close to 10 years now. And the 12/29/94 Bowie that you're talking about is generally hailed as a landmark jam. One of the best Bowies ever according to many. Second only to the Orpheum Bowie from 11/26/94 according to most critics. Plenty of people say as you did, that they thought it was off track and boring, I was just talking about that the other day to someone who made the same claim about the 7/30/03 S+SS. But people really do love that Bowie, and it's a fantastic one IMO as it goes many places. The lassie come home vocals? Digital delay loop jam, an ASZ tease from Mike doesn't mean that he wants them to stop jamming IMO. There's a reason the majority of fans think that was an epic Bowie, it goes many places and shows you the utter range of Phish. Many people also were not fans of the experimental 95 Tweezers, many said they didn't go anywhere, were boring, never clicked... most people tend to enjoy the experimental stuff. So there is indeed a pretty large consensus that these "awful" jams are pretty amazing stuff. Hearing the ALO Tweezer is just something else. It goes out there and has an awe-inspiring return. I'd say the same for the 12/29/94 Bowie. Also for things being just terrible at the end supposedly, have you heard June 04? Those are some of the best things I've heard the band do since BC. The jamming and interplay between band members was truly amazing. A type 2 jam could fall out at any time, and they could bring it. Just listen to the Alpine 04 7 below, or the full second set of 6/26/04. Simply great work, and it shows you that Phish had a ton of energy and as much fire as they had had since 97 still lurking inside of them.
More on this note, Page and Trey both just played with Govt. Mule last night. The guys really are still friends, just because "Mike said No!", it doesn't mean that they're not ever going to talk or play with each other again. They really are close and they all stay in contact with each other. http://phantasytour.com/phish/articles.cgi?newsID=754
Another tidbit, the new RS says that Cactus makes an appearance on Trey's new album. So it's not just random stuff that I've heard about them playing together still. Mike is on the new album supposedly, Page and Trey both played with Mule at the same show, and there are more of these things I can dredge up. I entirely believe my sources who told me about the guys playing together at the Barn again. They're never going to stop being friends, they've just been too close and played together for too many years.
Page played with Gov't Mule and Trey played with Govt Mule, not Page and Trey played with government mule. Page played in the first set, Trey in the second set. One would think that if they were still old pals, that they would take the stage together. Knowing Warren, he wouldn't have a problem with that. When Trey played at Higher Ground on April 1st, Fishman, Page and Mike were all in attendance. None of them sat in. It is very common to see one or two of them out at shows in town and when you do see a couple of members, they really don't hang out together. The big issue is Fishman, he doesn't speak hardly at all to Trey anymore. He's pretty pissed at him because the primary motivating factor for the break up outside of Trey's desire to do more solo work was money. If you lived in the town that they do, hung out with people that used to work for the band and are still friends with them and heard what the feelings really are amongst them all, you'd be much less optimistic about a return. If it does happen, it won't be for a number of years. Like I said in an earlier post, its about as likely as the Police doing a tour.
