Is this true?

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by vinceneilsgirl, Apr 25, 2005.

  1. vinceneilsgirl

    vinceneilsgirl Member

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    Despite the fact that I was immunized against it, I still managed to catch German measles while I was in junior high (yet more proof that vaccines don't work) and now I have been told that I'm lucky that I did because if you catch it during your childbearing years your kids will be deaf, blind, and retarded. Is that true?
     
  2. Mononucleosis

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    No clue. I'd advise talking to a ob/gyn. They should have a rather good idea about it.
     
  3. ChloeRaine_1

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    this is my expierence with german measles...when I was prego with my daughter...they told me that I had never gotten the shot to be immune to german measles...I could not get it while i was prego because it would mess the baby up...like the symptoms that you were talkin about...but after my lil angel was born they gave it to me. I think that you are fine...maybe if the baby was inside of a person while they got infected..then you would have to worry

    love
     
  4. feministhippy

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    It's possible for a baby to get microcephaly if their mother has the German Measels while their pregnant with them, though I don't think it happens too often nowadays.
     
  5. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    These and other effects (like microcephaly femhip was talking about) are possibilities if you get German Measles at a certain point during pregnancy, but not inevitable!

    When the GM vaccine was made they had to use fetal tissue from aborted fetuses whose mothers had German Measles. It took THIRTY SIX abortions before they actually got a fetus who was actually infected (the other fetuses were perfectly healthy!) so getting this disease while pregnant may cause birth defects, but usually the baby doesn't even become infected. An uninfected baby will not suffer any ill effects. The problem is, we don't know, in utero, which babies have gotten the disease from the mother and which ones (most of them) escaped the illness.
     
  6. stephaniesomewhere

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    Immunisations don't last forever...sounds to me like yours had run it's course and you were due for a booster...or a dose of measles!!! this is something which I think bothers me most about immunisations, the fact that they don't last forever and that sometimes getting these diseases when older may be more stressful than when you are young...I am not sure but I know that chickenpox only lasts about that long too and that is definitely worse the older you get it! If you remember with tetnus when you are older and you cut yourself they tend to give you a shot or a booster depending on whether you have had an initial one.
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    By the way I didn't know that about the aborted fetuses Maggie, did they then culture it or recreate it chemically to make the millions of doses we have around the world now?
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    checked how they make them and it seems they have to be cultured...do you think they may have used some other source for infected tissue?
     
  7. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    The info I have was that Human Diploid Cells, from aborted fetuses were used. I am assuming they are ALL cultured, because you cannot create such cells chemically or otherwise. One of the problems is that these "lines" of cells can only be cultured so many times, and then they have to be taken from live fetuses again. No one knows when German Measles will have to be retaken. (One reason we don't use the vaccine, that and that my oldest child got brain damage from the MMR vaccine.)

    I also don't know about infected tissues being used either. I posted the article I use with our schools on a recent thread about immunizations.

    Chicken Pox Vaccine has recently been found to be less than 50% effective after the first year, and even in the first year, it is not 100%. Too much messing with nature, using all these vaccines, IMO. They do wear off, while getting the actual illnesses protect you for life.
     
  8. stephaniesomewhere

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    thanks, that was a bit more succinct than what I was trying to read!!


    you know I do think the chicken pox vaccine is a waste of time...and I don't intend to get my daughter immunsed but rather rub her up against the closest case that comes around next time it passes(we missed the last one unfortunately) and cross my fingers. I understand some people had terrible side effects of getting chicken pox but given the fact that even my doctor tells me not to bother I think I will wait and let nature take it's course. I am torn with the german measles one...we all had it as a kid and I never thought anything of it, just that it was a normal part of life. However my little one did have the vaccine done and it is only since she had it done that I am have thought about the fact that it only lasts until the teenage years and that german measles is really worse to get as an adult...I suppose the only justification is that at least them she won't necessarily expose a pregnant woman to it unknowingly...and this risk seems to me to be about as equal as the risk that your child will react to the vaccine...sad but it seems like either way someone loses...
    :(
    In terms of polio I am all for vaccinating against it, I have not seen anything that would convince me that it is better for us to get polio than to be vaccinated against it, my impression is that the numbers of people suffering from the long term effects of polio far outweighs those that suffer effects from the vaccination.
    urrr...it's a hard one to wrap ones mind around...
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  9. vinceneilsgirl

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    Chicken Pox is worse as you get older. I got it a year after I had German Measles and have problems left over from it, mainly because my parents didn't take care of me correctly. I almost died, and I was so sick that I wanted to!
     
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