Why do women fall for strong, dominant alpha males with attractive physical features but are complete jerks. While the nice guys are the suckers who end up with nothing or take care of the woman and her child after she had her fun with the alpha jerks.
blah!!! my exhusband was a jerkface bossy moron pretty boy alpha male. NEVER AGAIN! i've even dated a few "submissive" men.. but i got sick of someone always kissing my ass and touching my feet. "yes ma'am. you can slap me if you want ma'am" honestly i like someone thats my equal. gotta be my best friend.
When you said submissive my mind immediately went to sex play. That is a problem right there. The second thing it went to is dating and relationships. I wouldn't kiss up to my wife/girlfriend, and I wouldn't be a controll freak either. Girls who fall for those "Strong, Sexy, Alpha Males" and then they get fucked, get pregnant, and the stupid guy leaves them.
Let me ask about sex. Wemon, do you like to be in controll in bed or being controlled? This is assuming that no physical pain is involved. I don't like that pain fetish junk. I don't like the needles. I don't like the shock things either.
Really? So woman should be submissive because it's the only way to attact a mate. I know a lot of adult couples who are in equal, loving, and healthy relationships. It's so cute when 15 yr old boys know everything about woman.
Equal all the way. I would never date someone who thinks they hold (or trys to hold) any sort of dominence over me. Nor would I want to date someone who feels like they want to be submissive. I also wouldn't date a "jerk" just because I found him physically attractive. I think attractive is a complete package and I'm not attracted to guys who hold some "alpha male" attitude. I like humble people.
I want an alpha male, but not a jerk. Dated a couple of submissive guys, SO not my cup of tea. I dont' want to have to make all the decisions in a relationship. I don't want to run their lives. So I guess technically I want to be submissive, though that isn't what I would term it in a relationship. I just don't want to -have- to be the pants. I can be sometimes, but not -all- the time, not because the guy in the relationship -can't- be the pants.
My fiance is very dominant but in a very protective way. He's the type who would give me the shirt off his back and makes sure I always have everything I need.
That is a pretty general statement. I don't fall for "jerks." I DO, however, like a strong man. I can't say my man and I are complete "equals" as we have different personalities and different roles in our family. (I am the Mama and he is the Papa.) I don't like whiney men at all. But I also can take control when it is something I know I am right about! I think most people, if they were to meet Bear (my dh) would say he is an "alpha male" but I am an "alpha female", so it works out. We run our "pack" (kids dogs ect) like a tight ship, with love. In bed......well, that's between him and I.
I don't like dominant men. Never have. That's why I never dated them either. But I don't like submissive either. Well, in the since they depend on me for everything and for me make all the choices. I want a man that just lives life without any form of roles. Which I do have, luckly.
I like a strong man also...and that doesn't mean a jerk. I want a guy that will take control if need be...but he won't mind if I take control in some situations. If we're right for each other..then I think it will all fall into place. I like what Maggie Sugar described...to me,that sounds ideal.
Women do not dislike nice guys. They dislike men who lack confidence and who are socially timid. There are plenty of alpha males who are nice. They get the most women, the good quality ones. The common thread is confidence. Jerks tend to be very confident. Women like this trait in them, but have to deal with the side-effects as well.
I agree with Rapunzel. My boyfriend and I are COMPLIMENTARY. Neither of us is either strictly dominant or submissive. We are each both, in compliment to what the other is at the time. But much of the time we are equal, because we both want the other's happiness. But, we aren't always 50/50.
well... something is so boring about a guy that just lies there on a silver platter for you. a submissive partner is nice for a while... but it gets OLD.
That sounds pretty equal to me :H My husband and I are equals. Doesn't mean we split everyting 50/50, but it does mean that there isn't one person controlling the relationship. We even use our flaws to our advantage. For example, my husband jokes that he inherited the "jerk gene" (from his mother) so he gets to be the one who bitches out the car dealership that won't repair the cars right, or the roommate who doesn't pay his bills, or the pizza place when they get our order wrong for the 20th time. I inherited the "controlling gene" (from my mother) so I handle all the home finances and investigations into major purchases. Which suits my husband well because he doesn't care to be involved in those things. And we wear out our flaws on productive means, and not on eachother. Being equal isn't about splitting everything 50/50. It is about respecting eachother (their good and bad characteristics) and working together as partners, or a team, in your daily life.
I expect my man to be a man, period. Just like he expects me to be a woman. I believe it should be equal in certain respects, but not every respect.
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